Start Something

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Start Something
Lostprophets Start Something.jpg
Studio album by Lostprophets
Released 2 February 2004 (2004-02-02)
(See release history)
Recorded March–September 2003 at Bigfoot Studio in Los Angeles, CA[1]
Genre Alternative metal, nu metal, post-hardcore
Length 56:48
Label Visible Noise (United Kingdom)
Columbia (United States)
Producer Eric Valentine[1]
Lostprophets chronology
Thefakesoundofprogress
(2000)Thefakesoundofprogress2000		 Start Something
(2004)		 Liberation Transmission
(2006)Liberation Transmission2006
Singles from Start Something
  1. "Burn Burn"
    Released: 3 November 2003
  2. "Last Train Home"
    Released: 26 January 2004
  3. "Wake Up (Make a Move)"
    Released: 3 May 2004
  4. "Last Summer"
    Released: 23 August 2004
  5. "Goodbye Tonight"
    Released: 22 November 2004
  6. "I Don't Know"
    Released: 2005 (radio airplay)

Start Something is the second studio album by the Welsh alternative metal band Lostprophets, released on 2 February 2004 through Visible Noise in the United Kingdom and South Korea. The album was released internationally on 5 February 2004. The band began work on the album in 2003 after touring for support of their previous album, Thefakesoundofprogress. This is the last album featuring the original drummer Mike Chiplin.

Start Something was a critical and commercial success and became the band's international breakthrough album. It peaked at number 33 on the Billboard 200 selling over 500 thousand copies in the United States alone and reached high positions on charts worldwide. Six singles were released from the album: "Burn Burn", "Last Train Home", "Wake Up (Make a Move)", "Last Summer", "Goodbye Tonight" and the radio single "I Don't Know". These singles helped Lostprophets reach mainstream popularity. In 2004, the album was certified platinum by the BPI in the United Kingdom.

Recording

The album was produced by Eric Valentine who has also produced albums by Queens of the Stone Age and Good Charlotte. MTV reports that the band chose the album name for two reasons. Firstly, the band wanted to motivate people they had met who stated that they would "love to do this and that" but never had the drive to do it. The second being that the band viewed Start Something as their first "musical step", as they felt Thefakesoundofprogress, originally intended as only a demo, "did not accurately reflect their ability".[2]

Lostprophets cancelled their show at Reading and Leeds Festival in 2003 to continue their work on the album. Lead singer Ian Watkins said they did it because "We want to make the best record possible and did not want to rush anything" and continued with "unfortunately these shows are at the final stages of making the record and we felt it was more important." The Scottish rock band Biffy Clyro replaced Lostprophets at the festival.[3]

Billy Martin & Benji Madden of Good Charlotte appear in additional vocals on "Last Train Home".

Artwork

The album cover, designed by Ian Watkins and Jamie Oliver, features a new gothic style logo with German blackletter typeface, replacing the old logo used for Fake Sound Of Progress. It would in itself be replaced for the band's next album, but featured on several of the band's singles taken from this album. Sometimes the lyrics "but even through your doubts, we will still be here", taken from We Still Kill The Old Way,[4] are written below the logo.[5] The figure at the front of the artwork wears blue jeans, a black hoodie and a baseball cap and is meant to resemble lead singer Watkins [6] (however, the person actually depicted in the photograph is Justin Timberlake [7] ).

At the time, Oliver was also an acclaimed artist with his work being displayed in exhibitions depicting Rhondda life.[8] There are slight variations with the cover in different territories with some showing the shadow of the figure with wings - either angels wings or more likely bird wings. This is best depicted in an official promotional colour wallpaper the band released for fans.[9] Whilst it has never been clarified, the city in the background is believed to depict Los Angeles in the United States where the album was recorded and mixed. Ian Watkins said that he regarded artwork as "just as important as the music", and in January 2010 reflected back on some of the Lostprophets' artwork saying "I remember doing the ‘Start Something’ record and compiling the inlay which is a collage of two years of our lives. It was so much fun. I’d sit there for hours looking at the booklet and all the little pictures. I did that to all the albums I bought."[10]

The album was titled Start Something for two reasons. Firstly it was meant to motivate people out of complacency with Ian Watkins saying "We spent the last three years touring and meeting loads of people who were like, 'I'd love to do this and that', but they never had the drive to get up off their asses and do it. Start something. Start anything." Secondly it stood in contrast to their first album which was meant to be just a demo and thus the band saw this album as their first musical step and the first to accurately reflect their ability.[11]

Release history

Country Release Date
Australia 12 January 2004 (2004-01-12)[12]
South Korea 2 February 2004 (2004-02-02)
United Kingdom
Canada 3 February 2004 (2004-02-03)
United States
Worldwide 5 February 2004 (2004-02-05)

The album was met with much attention in the UK and the US, thanks to the three first singles from the album: "Burn Burn", "Last Train Home" and "Wake Up (Make a Move)", which all met with high chart positions in the UK, US and in mainland Europe. On Friday 20 February 2004 the album was certified Silver and Gold by the BPI and on Friday 14 January 2005 the album was certified Platinum by the British Phonographic Industry again.[13] According to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) the album has sold more than 500 thousand copies in the United States and been certified Gold because of it.[14] The album has sold 2.5 million copies worldwide according to the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC).[15]

In the mids of February 2004, Start Something reached its peak at 33 on the Billboard 200 which was the highest charting position in the United States for them at the time.[16] They also reached 33 on the Billboard Comprehensive Albums chart in the United States.[17] The album first charted on the UK Albums Chart at 4 in 2004, in 2005 it peaked at its peak position 93 and after the release of Liberation Transmission in 2006 the album re-charted and peaked at 133.[18] Two singles were released from, the album the first single was "Burn Burn" which peaked at 17 on the UK Singles Chart and later re-charted in 2004 and peaked at 110 and becoming the first Lostprophets single to chart in Oceania and mainland Europe.[18] The follow-up single "Last Train Home" peaked at 8 on the UK Singles chart and topped the US Hot Modern Rock Tracks chart.[18][19] "Wake Up (Make a Move)" (UK #18), "Goodbye Tonight" (UK# 42), "Last Summer" (UK# 13) and the American radio single peaked at 11 on the Hot Modern Rock Tracks and 24 on the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks charts.[18][19]

Reception

Professional ratings
Aggregate scores
Source Rating
Metacritic 70/100[20]
Review scores
Source Rating
Allmusic 2/5 stars[21]
Drowned in Sound 8/10[22]
entertainment.ie 4/5 stars[23]
Entertainment Weekly B[24]
IGN 7.1/10[25]
Kerrang! 5/5 stars[citation needed]
NME 8/10[26]
Rolling Stone 3/5 stars[27]
Sputnikmusic 3.5/5[28]

The album gained generally favorable reviews from music critics, At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album has received an average score of 70, based on 13 reviews.[20]

Johnny Loftus from Allmusic said that they had too big of a resemblance to bands such as Linkin Park, Incubus, and Faith No More; Loftus gave the album 2 out of 5 stars.[21]

Rolling Stone reviewer Kirk Miller was more positive to the album and called it a "kick-ass tribute" again because of its resemblance to American rock band Faith No More and gave the album 3 out of 5 stars.[27] Justin Kownacki from Splendid said "this is one of those finely-polished discs that should have no trouble finding a huge audience" and was more over positive to the album.[29]

Drowned in Sound reviewer Gen Williams said "It's a really really really really really REALLY great pop-metal explosion." and continued to say "Burn Burn" boasted "the catchiest hook this side of Linkin Park" and that the alleged Adamski rip-off was justified because of the song's quality, and giving the album 8 out of 10 stars.[22]

Q called it "Unashamedly Epic."[citation needed] NME said "This is something genuinely fresh... here friends, is the real sound of progress" and Observer Music Monthly credited Start Something on being "A hybrid of big rock choruses, powerful rhythms and a neat pop edge to their rock artillery."[citation needed] Entertainment Weekly gave the album a B and said that Lostprophets "mostly live up to that high standard by juxtaposing gnarly metal riffs with quirky electronic interludes. Only the occasional lapse into Linkin Park-style self-indulgence drags them down."[20][24]

It was ranked seventh in Kerrang! magazine's Albums Of The Year 2004 list.[30] In a readers poll titled Top 100 British Rock Albums the album was ranked eighteenth, and was the third highest of the 2000s, however the poll was taken in February 2005 whilst the album was still fresh in the mind for many.[31]

In 2005, Start Something was ranked number 364 in Rock Hard magazine's book of The 500 Greatest Rock & Metal Albums of All Time.[32] Rock Sound magazine ranked the album eighth on their Critics' Poll 2004, the highest placing for a British band.[33]

Tour

The first time songs from the new album were played live was on 17 August 2003 at Newport,[34] the first gig of three alongside a Birmingham date and a Manchester date, in preparation for the Reading and Leeds festival at the end of August.[35] For these gigs We Still Kill The Old Way became the regular opener, whilst sets closed with Burn Burn, with tracks from their previous album interspersed in between.[36] Kerrang noted in a live review from Manchester that We Still Kill The Old Way and To Hell We Ride were "well received" but that "the surfeit of new material leads to a comparatively muted response".[37][38] At the end of July though it was announced that the band had cancelled their appearance at Reading and Leeds, whilst still promising to play the three warm-up shows, citing that they wanted the recording of Start Something to take precedence. Ian Watkins said "Unfortunately these shows are at the final stages of making the record and we felt it was more important not to short change anyone."[39] The band did however support Linkin Park at Wembley Arena in London on 22 November 2003 playing eight tracks, including five from the soon to be released new album.[40] Therefore, the band played four dates altogether in 2003.

To promote the album, the band toured North America, Europe, Asia and Oceania. Four months before the release of Start Something the band started the support tour for it. Their tour started in the United Kingdom.[41] The band also announced being Linkin Park's support act in their UK winter arena tour.[42] They later announced playing at the NME Award show in the London Astoria and then later announced UK dates in such places as Glasgow, Newcastle and Manchester among others.[43] The concert in the London Astoria ended up being sold out.[44]

On 15 July Lostprophets started their North America tour which included thirteen dates all put together, the American tour ended on 3 August 2004.[45] Lostprophets would also go on to be a part of the MTV's Campus Invasion Tour, the band was a supporting act for headliner Hoobastank, the tour kicked of in University of Tennessee.[46] In May 2004 the band visited Vancouver, Canada for a one night show.[47] Later on they went to play in New Zealand and Australia as part of the Big Day Out festival. They would also go down to Japan for their first time.[47] The band returned to the UK in November 2004 and for the first time they played big headline dates, because of this they extended their UK tour.[48][49]

As of 2012, Start Something is the most popular album played by the band with just over 35% of songs coming from that album across all the gigs they've ever played.[50] On top of this Last Train Home, Burn Burn and Last Summer are amongst the most popular songs the band play live.[51] With the exception of I Don't Know, Hello Again and A Million Miles the other tracks all featured at least a couple of times during The Betrayed tour of 2010 and the Weapons tour of 2012. Apart from once when the whole album was played in its entirety to a sell-out crowd at Cardiff's Motorpoint Arena on 28 April 2012, the last time I Don't Know was played live was in 2008,[52] whilst Hello Again and A Million Miles were last played in 2004.[53] Recently British fans have regularly asked the band to play We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan by making a claw shape with their left hand and chanting "Godzilla!".[54] The band sometimes tease the audience by playing the first few notes but very rarely play the song in full.

Legacy

In June 2012 the album was entered into Rock Sound magazine's Hall Of Fame with features on how the band look back on the album and how it has influenced others.[55] Rock Sound said that the album made the band into "one of our greatest rock commodities" and called it a "defining record for the UK rock scene as a whole".[56] Lee Gaze stated "Start Something is the greatest hits of what Lostprophets do". Aled Phillips of Kids In Glass Houses said "it was a turning point for a lot of bands" but also that "everyone's jeans got tighter and started wearing Nike Dunks - it was a cultural shift. With them it was never just about the music, everybody got swept up in the whole aesthetic as well".[57] Five British rock records - All Our Kings Are Dead, We Are the Dynamite, World Record, Free and Hold Me Down - were all cited as being heavily influenced by Start Something.[56]

Also in 2012 the band announced a homecoming show at Cardiff's Motorpoint Arena where the album was played in its entirety.[58][59][60] Stuart Richardson said "We wrote the record in Caerphilly. Start Something is when we kind of came into our own as a band, and Cardiff is where we came into our own as people". The gig sold out with a crowd of 10,000 people.[61]

BBC Wales called the album a "modern rock classic" in retrospect[62] and BBC Music called it a "UK rock classic".[63] Whilst WalesOnline noted how the album had been "a galvanising force in the Welsh rock scene".[64] The BBC also produced a radio programme with Bethan Elfyn that aired on BBC Radio 1 in May 2010, which featured the Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, Funeral For A Friend and The Blackout amongst others, and titled it "Start Something: The Story of South Wales Rock" in honour of the album.[65][66] The album was included in Rock Sound's 101 Modern Classics list at number 14.[67]

As of May 2012 the album has garnered 10.8 million plays by 640,000 listeners on Last.FM.[68]

Awards

Kerrang! Awards
Year Recipient/Nominated work Award Result
2004 Start Something[69] Best Album Nominated
2004 Last Train Home[70] Best Single Won
Metal Hammer Awards
Year Recipient/Nominated work Award Result
2004 Lostprophets for Start Something tour[71] Best Live Act Nominated

Accolades

Publication Accolade Recording Year Rank
Kerrang! Albums of the Year[30] - 2004 7th
Kerrang! 666 Songs You Must Own[72] Burn Burn & Last Train Home 2005 *
Kerrang! The Rock 100[73] Last Train Home 2012 *
Kerrang! The 50 Best Albums of the 21st Century[74] - 2009 19th
Rock Sound Critic' Poll[33] - 2004 8th
Metal Hammer Albums Of 2004[75] - 2004 10th
Q Recordings of the Year[76] - 2004 32nd
Q Readers Best Tracks of the Year[77] Last Summer 2004 82nd
Q Ultimate Music Collection[78] Burn Burn 2005 *
Classic Rock End of Year Best Albums[79] - 2004 13th
Rock Sound Hall of Fame Records[80] - 2012 *

(*) designates unordered lists.

Track listing

All lyrics written by Ian Watkins, all music composed by Lostprophets.

No. Title Length
1. "We Still Kill the Old Way"   4:20
2. "To Hell We Ride"   3:40
3. "Last Train Home"   4:35
4. "Make a Move" (titled "Wake Up (Make a Move)" in later editions) 3:56
5. "Burn Burn"   3:36
6. "I Don't Know"   3:57
7. "Hello Again"   4:56
8. "Goodbye Tonight"   3:54
9. "Start Something"   3:26
10. "A Million Miles"   4:32
11. "Last Summer"   4:07
12. "We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan"   4:05
13. "Sway...."   10:24
Total length:
 56:48

Personnel

Credits for Start Something adapted from liner notes.[1]

Chart positions

Chart Position
Australian Albums Chart[82] 66
Austrian Albums Charts[83] 60
European Top 100 Albums[84] 15
Finnish Albums Chart[85] 46
French Albums Charts[86] 69
German Albums Chart[87] 51
Irish Album Charts[88] 61
Japanese Albums Chart[89] 34
New Zealand Album Charts[90] 14
UK Album Charts[18] 4
US Billboard 200[16] 33
US Billboard Comprehensive Albums[17] 33

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