User:JasonCarswell/temp

LIARS and SHILLS and Cowards have taken over SaidIt

It doesn't seem fair, open, or honest to suddenly convict me without warning or a fair trial and by stealing my voice. Judge for yourselves. Ironic that I was banned by the fundamental flaw of SaidIt that I was fighting against: fair, open, accountable, consistent, and honest social management systems.

The only other person with balls enough to use their real name on SaidIt is a teen trans-woman tyrant who is able to slander my real name with made up pedo allegations and censor me and you want me to chillax?

Turns out TheAmeliaMay Johnson thought she had a loaded gun of pedo accusations under the table the whole time when I just thought TAM trying to help me with my case against liar shill socks, despite being simply unhinged. Secretly s/he was building a nonsense case for socks against me.

Not only does the conversation with the profoundly brilliant kid across the ocean have nothing to do with the socks drama, TAM has obviously backed the wrong shill horse and become an outright LIAR too. This is not just a mistake.

If calling someone a liar and a shill is worth banning over, and letting them lie and shill is not ban-worthy, then SaidIt has bigger fucking problems than I thought.

I've copypasted text below with most important links added. I can add screen shots if you like but I could doctor them almost as easily as this text. But why bother when I have truth on my side? View the history of this article to see the reworking of this page. I don't need to hide any of it. With such outrageous accusations I needed to put something out immediately to counter the obvious slander of my real name, so I've tried to polish this page since the first iteration.

I will also add responses here until I'm unbanned.

OBVIOUS BASELESS SLANDEROUS LIES

> I'm going to ban u/JasonCarswell. He's dragged discussion down the Pyramid of Debate for far too long,

If you can't deal with some drama or make rational decisions you should NOT be admin. TAM you need to unban me immediately and remove your baseless lies and slanderous pedo accusations.

> and I can't keep pretending like he isn't a sick freak who wants to molest children — and could use SaidIt to lure in innocent kids. He's never admitted to doing that, but what if he does?

1000% BULLSHIT LIES based on pure speculation and fictional fantasy. I suspect it's confession through projection of a sick trans mind.

TheAmeliaMay, I could easily say endless shit about your sexual identity/preferences and I've been relatively open about mine (no one wants to hear about it), but that's a mighty low stoop and far stretch, even for you. You bring shame on yourself Amelia May Johnson. You should resign your admin powers immediately as you're clearly unfit and leap to wild accusations without letting your victims defend themselves.

Besides this lying bullshit and our minor differences I used to think you were generally okay and I gave you the benefit of the doubt - MANY times.

Regarding your "proof" I guarantee you that you have completely misread those very few sentences and are yet again, looking for demons where there are none. At least now I know why you turned into a bitch. Because you've been harbouring nonsense ideas for so long. Instead of confronting me to my face you waited until you could build a case of lies and pounce on the ban button.

How many others are you ready to ban?

How many private messages in confidence are you ready to share?

THAT is exactly why I didn't tell you more about it.

Because that young person, an exceptional prodigy beyond description and belief, has VERY good reason to remain hidden with FAR more serious problems than child predators, I will not reveal anything about them - HOWEVER, because much of that story was too much to believe and seemed like a trap I copypasted all of the chats and emails and will share them with the only people I trust enough on this site: d3rr, Jesus, and zyxzevn. Preferably only one of them, to keep the information less traveled as people's lives are in danger, if their amazing story is to be believed. Some people have amazing lives and some are boring, so I see no reason why it can't be true and I've seriously looked for plotholes. This will break my promise to keep this quiet, but I trust those 3, and I'll be fucked if I'm going to let some pathetic admin take me off the best site I know of.

It shouldn't take any of them very long to realize the "connection" is truly on a different level (NOT sexual). This may sound crazy but so is the story that will read like some insane correspondence novel, with a bit of mystery. I still don't know their full name nor where they are now, but I'm pretty sure we're still oceans apart. Lastly, I was the one who stopped corresponding. For the record it was M7 who suggested to that person that they talk to me, though I really doubt M7 knew much about them. If it was a set up or scam or a Mossad agent LARPing then they sure went to a lot of fucking work and are to be applauded for being beyond genius. Regardless if it was a trap they didn't get me because it simply wasn't like that.

Now I understand why TAM kept asking me to talk about the drama, it was a trap.

My previous week-long banning is irrelevant, magnora7 was out of line and a liar then as much as TheAmeliaMay is now, and I can prove it. But of course on a witch-hunt TAM isn't interested in justice if s/he can be a "hero" and catch an alleged pedo based on nothing but selections out of context - without offering any opportunity for defense.

Responses to comments

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zv7/the_ujasoncarswell_vs_usocks_drama/

From oldest to newest.

Jesus, when I have I ever said I was a shill? That's nonsense.

Jesus, what exactly are my views on the vaccines? I don't like them, but beyond that I don't even know as my views on them evolves, so if you find out let me know.

Jesus, I spoke last weekend to someone who told me directly about their friend's grim demise from a vaccine reaction.

TheAmeliaMay, what is irrelivant to your post is your pedo-witch hunt. Deal with the Jason-socks drama and remove your fucked up slanderous bias bullshit.

To be clear, I NEVER said "I hope you die" or anything remotely like it to anyone.

Socks has made MANY veiled threats and I can prove it.

TheAmeliaMay said, "They both said I could quote them, so I did. I don't see what the problem is."

NO NO NO LIAR! I said you could quote the current thread in the PM. Certainly not the one with sensitive information as you did.

d3rr said, "I vote for a temporary ban myself."

How about socks gets banned too? It takes two to tango. Plus the pedo accusations are irrelevant bullshit lies and I can prove it.

TheAmeliaMay said, "He's obviously mentally disturbed, but it seems like his copy of our exchange is correct."

MORE SLANDER and WHY would I lie?

zyxzevn said, "The standard left tactic on this forum is to create fights with plain lies. And then ban the people that get angry about it. We must be careful not to fall for this trick each time."

Now you tell me. /s

TheAmeliaMay said, "I only banned Jason, and gave Socks a warning. I already asked them to block each other multiple times, but Jason kept starting shit and socks kept replying."

That does not seem fair at all and I certainly don't recall you saying to block each other. I TOLD SOCKS TO BLOCK ME and I can prove it.

Jesus said, "I found him fine to be honest."

If you mean socks (she) then you're not paying attention as socks mixes truth with lies cleverly. That's why socks is the biggest danger on SaidIt as a liar shill.

Enza said it best:

| I don't share PMs unless people tell me to, or there's a crime involved

Can you elaborate on the crime involved? Hypothetically speaking, if Jason were a pdf file, where in that PM did he admit to committing a sexual “crime”? Wouldn’t he know their name, as well as have at least one photo of them (or tried to get one)?

He never said he was attempting to become romantically involved with them or was attracted to them in a romantic way (all he said was their wisdom was remarkable and he felt close with them- through talking and shared views and ideals); he basically said they were smart beyond their years, and he found it surprising how he had taken such a liking to them. He mentioned they were naive and lacked wisdom when it came to romance (they were innocent), but still felt they were wise beyond their years in other aspects, which he alluded to being the reason why he liked them; they were wise beyond their years.

It seemed Jason would have been friends with this person regardless of their age, as the “connection” and “wisdom” is what’s constantly brought up - their wisdom being the thing that initiated their dialogues, and formed that connection - nothing degenerate.

He didn’t mention doing or trying to do anything sexual w/ them.. didn’t say he tried to get her to meet up irl.. didn’t say he showed her a photo of his cock.. he said he didn’t even know their name (which means he didn’t ask), and didn’t even know what they look like (again, he didn’t even ask for a photo, as a pdf file?)

So what did he do that was a crime, like if we were in real, legal court, what crime did he break in that PM? Also, if you’re banning him due to the socks situation, why even leak these PM’s and accuse him of something without allowing him to defend his name? Shouldn’t your reasoning for banning him due to the “socks thing” be enough? This seems.. extra?

All he said was he found it remarkable, despite the brief time they communicated, how well they connected despite the age gap (as friends), how they were innocent yet wise beyond their years, and they were becoming what felt like a true friend on the internet (which he even mentions is odd - an older anarchist friends with a wise young girl), to the point he wondered if someone was trolling him or trying to honey pot him.

And I don’t defend pdfilia whatsoever.

If this is a crime, then I’m guilty in my 20’s (rn) and so are my irl friends for being like Jason, and for playing apex legends with this squeaker we met in a random match when only one other friend was available to play, who we introduced to the rest of our friend group, who’s based as fuck and super chill. We play with the kid at least once a week, don’t know his age but he says more crazy shit than we ever do lol.

PRIVATE MESSAGE | TheAmeliaMay Tell me your side of the story

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zv7/the_ujasoncarswell_vs_usocks_drama/

[–]from TheAmeliaMay[A] sent 1 day ago

I know that u/socks made a thinly veiled death threat (I removed it and warned her not to do it again) and was dragging discussion down the Pyramid of Debate, so before I do anything else: I want to hear your side of the story. Try to provide links, if you can, so I can build a case.

And if you need to talk about it, I'm here.

[–]to TheAmeliaMay sent 23 hours ago

Personally I don't give a fuck about swearing, but I very rarely tell people to "fuck off" and even more rarely say "fuck you". I can't explain why it's a personal preference not to say that to people. I generally don't judge others harshly that use those too common phrases frequently - except that in this case it is definitely downward discussion on SaidIt.

I don't care about the threats. It should have been obvious that I was trying to get socks banned for perpetually dragging down discussions. The threats were bonus.

Why? Socks is a perpetual liar and shill, and IMO is the most dangerous person on SaidIt pushing authoritarian misinfo and propaganda when clearly there's a depopulation agenda. (I even tried to mend fences with Chipit who hasn't been as bad for half a year (at least from my limited view), and was only guilty of being prejudiced with ignorance and extremely conservative biases.) It wouldn't be half as bad if there was half as much but socks is insidious worming into nearly every fucking conversation disrupting with bullshit claiming they just want to see other views. Few if any are so prolific - and problematic.

I even suggested we make a /s/SaidItSurveys post to see who get's voted off the SaidIt island for good, all or nothing, me or socks.

Building a case is a waste of time when it's fucking obvious. Socks is a liar shill and you're protecting socks instead of banning socks, if even just for a week.

I'd suggest a /s/SaidItSurvey to see if socks should be ejected, but I'd guess neither you nor I are ideal candidates for presenting such drama-fuel.

| And if you need to talk about it, I'm here.

Seriously, WTF? I honestly greatly appreciate that you're trying but you can't have it both ways. You threw a hissy fit to say I'm not on your friends list and now you're trying to be my friend. The hypocrisy should be obvious. Be consistent.

Not to spin it around back at you but if you want to talk about your duality or leadership or whatever I will give you my honest take, good bad or ugly.

I don't have money, youth, or sex appeal anymore, but I can maintain my honesty and integrity, the most precious among the few things I have left.

Also, d3rr said an admin quit. Who?

[–]from TheAmeliaMay[A] sent 8 hours ago

| It should have been obvious that I was trying to get socks banned for perpetually dragging down discussions. The threats were bonus.

I know that.

Socks is a perpetual liar and shill, and IMO is the most dangerous person on SaidIt pushing authoritarian misinfo and propaganda when clearly there's a depopulation agenda.

We don't ban people for lying.

| Building a case is a waste of time when it's fucking obvious. Socks is a liar shill and you're protecting socks instead of banning socks, if even just for a week.

So you're not gon'o give me links or anything? Kay.

| I'd suggest a /s/SaidItSurvey to see if socks should be ejected

Feel free to post about it, but I won't ban someone just because they lost a popularity contest.

| I honestly greatly appreciate that you're trying but you can't have it both ways. You threw a hissy fit to say I'm not on your friends list and now you're trying to be my friend.

I ain't tryn'o be your friend; you can talk to me about things without being on my friends list.

| Not to spin it around back at you but if you want to talk about your duality or leadership or whatever I will give you my honest take, good bad or ugly.

I wasn't. I just want to know what happened. u/socks gave me their side of the story, so that's all I have to work off of, other than you mentioning me over and over, and responding with insults any time I try to help.

| Also, d3rr said an admin quit. Who?

I don't know; everyone still has their admin tags.

[–]to TheAmeliaMay sent 6 hours ago

| We don't ban people for lying.

But you can for perpetually dragging down the conversation.

Forgiving the threats neutered the case.

| So you're not gon'o give me links or anything? Kay.

There was a link in my OP and almost all of the comments were evidence of downward discussion very condensed in that thread. The only thing socks didn't say was "If you don't like my comments don't respond", to which I would have said, "If you don't like my posts then don't comment in them." But alas, that opportunity didn't avail itself.

Don't pretend like there's not mountains of evidence of socks being a negative person.

| Feel free to post about it, but I won't ban someone just because they lost a popularity contest.

Obviously. I wasn't suggesting admins be required. The challenge was for voluntary elective removal. Socks is a coward on that front.

| I ain't tryn'o be your friend; you can talk to me about things without being on my friends list.

Fair enough, but that's what it sounded like. I already know I can talk to you, regardless of whatever other issues you or I may have.

| u/socks gave me their side of the story

Take it with a grain of socks flavoured salt.

| so that's all I have to work off of

Bullshit. There's a whole thread full of socks bullshit "conversation" to work off. There's the new sub announcement linking to stuff before that. This isn't new. I already shared that. Don't be lazy. Do your job. Read the perpetual downward shit socks spews.

| other than you mentioning me over and over

Over and over where when? I primarily mention you when there are STABs.

| and responding with insults any time I try to help.

Outrageous claims require outrageous evidence.

Calling out shit as I see it is not throwing down insults. I have no need for resorting to insults. If there are problems I'll call them out. If there are big problems I'll call them out in a big way to make it clear to people who can't see their own big problems. I'm not immune from this from time to time.

You don't even realize when I'm the one helping you. For example your words are not precise. "any time I try to help" is not even accurate, implying every time without exception. I'm quite certain there's been at least one time you didn't get offended by me. Lurn werds gooder. If you take offense when none was given that's on you.

You're seeking demons where there are none, and ignoring the obvious one: socks.

[–]from TheAmeliaMay[A] sent 4 hours ago

| But you can for perpetually dragging down the conversation.

Yes, that's what I'm asking you about.

| There was a link in my OP

One link where you instigated it.

| Take it with a grain of socks flavoured salt.

That's why I'm asking you for your side.

| Over and over where when? I primarily mention you when there are STABs.

You mentioned me multiple times in regards to u/socks.

| Outrageous claims require outrageous evidence.

Like a link?

| You're seeking demons where there are none, and ignoring the obvious one: socks.

Keep in mind: you're the one who responded to my inquiry with hostility, not socks. They were very polite.

[–]to TheAmeliaMay sent 3 hours ago

| One link where you instigated it.

I just gave you 3 links, and socks has been instigating shit since day one.

| You mentioned me multiple times in regards to u/socks.

socks is a STAB. You are an admin and that is the ONLY reason why I brought you up - to deal with that shit.

| Like a link?

I stand by that 1000%.

| Keep in mind: you're the one who responded to my inquiry with hostility, not socks. They were very polite.

Again, you're projecting hostility where there is none. I seek results, not endless pleasantries. Your lack of action is a waste of the time I spent setting socks up and is a waste of time now. We had a chance and you wasted it.

Of course socks plays that game. That's part of how STABs work. They often banter politely for a few rounds then suddenly turn vicious.

[–]from TheAmeliaMay[A] sent 2 hours ago

| I just gave you 3 links

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about your post on s/vaccineinjuries (I didn't see the paragraph with the links in it, because I'm bad at reading).

| socks is a STAB. You are an admin and that is the ONLY reason why I brought you up - to deal with that shit.

You should know that I don't deal with Pyramid stuff, which is why I didn't intervene until he made a threat.

| I stand by that 1000%.

That's the problem.

| Your lack of action is a waste of the time I spent setting socks up

So you're saying this was all a set up? Or am I misunderstanding so'm?

| That's part of how STABs work. They often banter politely for a few rounds then suddenly turn vicious.

Yep, I know that. Loki88 did the exact same thing — but keep in mind, that it seems an awfully lot like how you've behaved towards me.

[–]to TheAmeliaMay sent 47 minutes ago

| because I'm bad at reading

And other things. You're also good at many things, even terrific at some. We're all human, except the bots.

| You should know that I don't deal with Pyramid stuff, which is why I didn't intervene until he made a threat.

And neutered it so the advocator of violence remains on our forum. It's NOT the first, second, or even third fucking time! And it just doesn't stop. I just got this shit directly right after your message I'm responding to now. https://i.imgur.com/ZTLSzf0.png

| | I stand by that 1000%.

| That's the problem.

Explain like I'm five why that is THE problem and not YOUR problem.

| | Your lack of action is a waste of the time I spent setting socks up

| So you're saying this was all a set up? Or am I misunderstanding so'm?

Don't oversimplify it.

socks is a site-wide problem, and that's not just my opinion. socks' behaviour is routine.

Obviously we've had history, including the recent stuff before my Back to school post. Even Chipit and I know not to mouth off under each other's posts too much (I suspect).

I wasn't expecting it when I posted it but socks decided to shoot off in there. I responded. socks got upset and used veiled threats, again.

I wasn't planning on going to town and dancing all day against socks' bullshit but I did. I don't usually like to go beyond the main comment section into continue this thread where few see it. However, since socks was getting pseudo-violent (not to mention the propaganda and lies of mainstream media are VERY DANGEROUS which socks promotes) I figure the sooner socks is gone the better - so I kept at it.

Note: I do not like to inflict suffering on anyone, including shills like socks, but the sooner they're gone the better. IMO socks is a masochist lingering on SaidIt clearly despised by many.

I didn't plan it but once the ball was rolling I kept on it.

You can wait until a pedo rapes a child to arrest them - or you can "Catch A Predator" with bait. To be clear, and to my limited knowledge, socks is a not a pedo.

Call it a set up. Call it entrapment. Call it what you like. socks did NOT have to respond. socks did NOT have to drag discussion downward. socks does NOT have to use veiled threats.

| but keep in mind, that it seems an awfully lot like how you've behaved towards me.

You're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. To this day I don't harbour ill feelings towards you, nor have I any animosity towards you. However, I will continue to call out bullshit words or actions when I see it. That's all I've ever been doing that you might consider as "behavior towards you". If you don't like straight shooters, stay clear of the gun range.

Feel free to repost this if you want a public opinion on it. I speak plainly and would say the same in public.

[–]to TheAmeliaMay sent 39 minutes ago

Now socks is spamming me with private messages: https://i.imgur.com/xC5jbzE.png

Ban and Censorship

Now /u/TheAmeliaMay has banned and censored me from SaidIt and chat while making slanderous accusations against me and I have no recourse but to make this page. One of the STABs (shills, trolls, and bots) made sure my chat message was off screen and TAM silenced them and me.

Was this an orchestrated attack from socks and the other STABs and TheAmeliaMay?

From the #SaidIt chat:

https://thelounge.saidit.net/

14:18 JasonCarswell Have I been banned?

14:19 JasonCarswell Why?

14:38 JasonCarswell WTF? "I can't keep pretending like he isn't a sick freak who wants to molest children"

14:40 JasonCarswell Socks is a lying idiot shill. FACT

14:40 JasonCarswell I was never name-calling.

14:41 JasonCarswell You never said any such thing: "so I told them to shut up and block each other."

14:42 JasonCarswell You are obviously, evidently a shitty admin and not level headed.

14:43 JasonCarswell I stated that socks can walk away and ignore me, block me, or leave.

14:43 JasonCarswell Socks chose to fight.

14:46 JasonCarswell SHILLS WIN

14:46 JasonCarswell SHILLS WIN

14:46 JasonCarswell SHILLS WIN

14:47 JasonCarswell Bullshit + /s/Victimhood = TAM + socks

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SLANDER (copied here for posterity and proof)

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zv7/the_ujasoncarswell_vs_usocks_drama/

The u/JasonCarswell vs u/socks drama

submitted an hour ago * by TheAmeliaMay[F,A] from self.SaidIt

If you haven't noticed: there's been a lot of drama between u/JasonCarswell and u/socks, with a lot of bickering going on across multiple posts, with Jason wanting Socks banned and vice-versa. Throughout the process, Jason mentioned me multiple times, which is how I got dragged into this.

So here's what happened, and what I'm'o do about it:

What happened?

Apparently, this started when socks said that no one has died from the Covid vaccine. Jason replied expressing his disagreement.

They were having a good discussion until Jason called socks a shill multiple times and made a post calling them a "lying idiot." Socks replied by calling him a "narcissist POS". By this point, the discussion had already been dragged down the Pyramid to pure name-calling.

Jason continues to call her a shill, they argue back and forth, and Jason makes a comment telling me to ban socks. I looked at the situation, and it was obvious that both sides were in the wrong, but that it wasn't really banworthy, so I told them to shut up and block each other.

Jason responded by calling me a "shitty admin" and heavily implied that my response was not level-headed. Socks, meanwhile, was really respectful, even though I called her out too.

On another post, Jason told me that socks was advocating violence, so I removed the rule-breaking comment and told socks not to do it again. At this point, I decided to investigate further, so I asked them what was going on.

Socks was really nice, and told me what happened. She was pretty upset about the whole ordeal, and explained that the only reason she wanted Jason dead was because he was bullying her. Jason was very hostile towards my inquiry, but he did give me three links:

1. https://saidit.net/s/memes/comments/7zi7/back_to_school/
2. https://saidit.net/s/DiscoverSaidit/comments/7zaz/svaccineinjuries_a_new_sub_for_documenting/
3. https://saidit.net/s/Vent/comments/7z24/thank_you_jesus/

The first link lead me to socks's comment in response to another user that was very polite, but Jason responded calling her a shill.

The second link was to a post by Jason stirring the pot by calling Socks a shill.

The third link led me to where this all started: socks saying the Covid vaccine hasn't killed no one, and Jason calling her a shill and making a post calling her a "lying idiot".

So his own sources show that he was the one who started it all, not Socks.

Furthermore, when Socks was talking to an unrelated user — in a polite manner — Jason responded by calling her a shill.

And when Socks replied to my post about shills saying it was "Well-written": Jason responded by calling her a "lying idiot shill".

It's obvious at this point that Jason is actively trying to start shit and harassing Socks because he thinks she's a shill. The final nail in the coffin is when Jason admitted (red text was added by me) he set Socks up.

Magnora already temporarily banned Jason for a week for harassing him the same way he's doing Socks — which Magnora usually doesn't do; usually he just gives everyone perma-bans.

Furthermore, I have proof that Jason's a pedophile. We were talking in PMs and he randomly brought it up. I pressed for more information so I could bring it up to M7 — which I did, and he didn't ban Jason over it. I just thought I misunderstood what Jason said, seeing how he talks in such a weird way. I honestly regret not pushing M7 on it more... What am I doing about it?

I'm going to ban u/JasonCarswell. He's dragged discussion down the Pyramid of Debate for far too long, and I can't keep pretending like he isn't a sick freak who wants to molest children — and could use SaidIt to lure in innocent kids. He's never admitted to doing that, but what if he does?

I'm just going to give u/socks a warning, since the only reason she dragged discussion down the Pyramid of Debate was because Jason was harassing her, and already dragged it to that level.

I don't usually deal with Pyramid stuff, and I know yall don't like it when I do, but this has gone way too far for way too long, and I don't wan'o be responsible for some pedo luring in kids over SaidIt. Magnora has been gone for a month, so I can't ask him what to do about any of this. I just pray it's the right thing.