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Powers & Principalities, Episode 036

Powers & Principalities, Episode 036,
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00:00 [Music] 00:27 the 00:29 [Music] 00:38 [Music] 00:42 Joe you're back in the States how you 00:44 doing well just fine Tim I'm you know to 00:47 try to find a parallel for my last 00:50 couple months you'd have to go into the 00:53 Greek literature maybe I got to see I 00:57 didn't get any you know one-eyed 01:01 monsters but everything else came at me 01:04 last two months fire first floods I 01:10 think God is telling me something that 01:13 sure what and then in New Zealand you 01:18 know my wife is a hiker and nearly 01:21 killed me a dozen times 01:24 he's like cliff likes she likes to go on 01:26 so I'm back in Montecito and they let us 01:30 in yesterday the house had been 01:33 completely unattended because it was at 01:35 a mandatory evacuation zone he military 01:39 control they're still actually our 01:40 soldiers in the in the zones that are 01:42 cordoned off still but no one had been 01:46 here and so the house naturally fell 01:50 apart at the seams and so we've been 01:51 trying to get it back together and I 01:53 walked some of the destruction it was 01:55 the first time I excited chance to see 01:56 it and it's very strange because say 90% 02:00 of Montecito you wouldn't even know it 02:02 had rained I mean it's just completely 02:03 you know there's nothing but along these 02:07 creeks where we have built homes as it 02:11 turns out perhaps foolishly there's just 02:15 complete destruction I mean I walked 02:17 what's called all of MIL it's a street 02:20 that runs near my house out of the ocean 02:22 and it was beyond belief there were 02:25 homes that had been literally crushed 02:27 into debris there were giant homes have 02:32 been taken off their foundations and 02:33 rotated and moved 02:35 cars were in trees in some places and 02:39 then there were rocks because it's 02:42 characterized as a flood but in fact 02:45 it's kind of a combination avalanche and 02:47 flood large boulders are loosened and 02:50 then they rule down from the mountains 02:52 were pressed up against these hills are 02:54 actually Mountain some of them are 02:56 almost 5000 feet and these things with 02:59 particulate water they just get rolling 03:01 and they they can't be stopped 03:03 they just everything and so what had 03:06 been like a an area where their homes is 03:09 now basically like a waterway with 03:12 boulders and black mud and just it's 03:18 just beyond belief it was such a 03:20 pristine pretty and upscale place and 03:24 now these little rivers that run through 03:27 the community are are devastated and 03:30 it's going to be interesting to to see 03:32 how exactly how the you know how they 03:34 respond I think it's gonna be very very 03:38 complicated the rebuilding of these 03:40 areas because the the the floods shut 03:44 down highway 101 which is California's 03:47 basically not just major but only real 03:50 commercial thoroughfare it links you 03:54 know San Francisco Los Angeles San Diego 03:57 and haven't shut down like that is 03:59 devastating so I'm sure that the state 04:02 will want to have Montecito the 04:05 waterways and the you know the the 04:08 permit system where you have all these 04:09 private bridges Oh things can affect the 04:13 water you know the bridges can become if 04:15 they're not designed properly stopped up 04:18 you have a dam situation and then flash 04:21 floods the whole you know concept here 04:24 is to keep the water in the creek yeah 04:27 it gets out of the creek god help us 04:30 because the freeway is very low and then 04:33 you fill up the freeway the freeway was 04:35 under I just parts of it I would have to 04:38 say we're 20 or 30 feet of mud and so 04:41 that's all been cleared out now I mean 04:43 many in the 04:45 the local communities couldn't handle 04:47 any of this obviously way too big a 04:50 project so the Army Corps of Engineers 04:51 came in and they used dynamite and c4 I 04:56 think it is this cold or so yeah c4 and 04:59 they blew up built boulders and and 05:01 would blow them up have these huge earth 05:05 moving you know tractors and bulldozers 05:09 and I mean these things are just 05:10 enormous and then they would get 05:13 everything and put into big trucks and 05:16 the truck the con the convoys of trucks 05:18 were just non-stop 05:19 that's really why they evacuated the 05:21 civilians because the trucks were 05:25 literally going nonstop through the 05:28 community with these giant loads they 05:30 couldn't break they had to kind of set 05:33 up so that they could go right onto the 05:34 freeway and they wanted to get all of 05:37 the debrief cleared out so the waterways 05:41 would work and not have the freeway 05:44 flooded again this was the mission and 05:48 this was you know this is where the 05:50 military really does well you know when 05:54 it when it actually responds with its 05:57 technology and manpower they had 06:00 thousands of people here 06:02 and so military can be a force of good 06:04 Tim but sometimes not I mean sometimes 06:09 we just are being brainwashed it seems 06:13 to me to see our military in a positive 06:18 light when in fact it's something else I 06:22 know you mentioned you'd read a a book 06:25 recently that talks about this we'd like 06:30 to give a little book report to us to 06:31 start off the discussion on militarism 06:33 and propaganda sure militarism of course 06:36 the what a stimulated this particular 06:42 topic I think was I was watching some 06:46 football games in my brother's house and 06:47 then a couple Sundays ago and then 06:50 awesome you know during the commercial 06:53 break that you have these movies that 06:54 are coming out soon and 06:56 so Hollywood appears to be in overdrive 06:58 now putting out this probe military 07:00 movies I think there's one called 12 07:02 strong regarding Afghanistan the first 07:06 people on the ground Afghanistan to hunt 07:08 bin Laden so they're promoting the the 07:10 standard narrative the war on terror and 07:12 heroic military going in there and 07:13 justifying our now what are what 17th or 07:17 18th year occupation of that kind of 07:18 that country 07:19 well they committed nine-one-one didn't 07:22 know yeah yeah it was the Afghan and 07:30 then there is wait for that there's an 07:31 ad for what cleanie-cleanie stores 07:33 latest stuff like tribute to the Empire 07:35 and that it's the 1517 to Paris I guess 07:38 his story about these three or four 07:40 soldiers who apparently took out a 07:43 crazed Muslim on a train in France and 07:45 because that justifies all the military 07:47 spending the thousand military bases and 07:49 all that you know of the United States 07:51 US Empire cuz you know once again heroic 07:55 US soldiers are saving Europe from 07:58 savages so that yeah I got me thinking 08:01 you know they've ruled these films out 08:03 and of course clean air also did 08:05 American sniper a few years ago so we 08:08 have these films but the book yeah the 08:10 book is the complex by Nick Turse very 08:14 good book at the Nick the titles the 08:16 complex how the military invades our 08:18 everyday lives and basically shows just 08:20 the cultural economic impact of military 08:23 military spending and there's a great 08:26 introduction here he that he writes 08:30 about to stay at every day light morning 08:32 a typical couple and I'll just read this 08:36 he says rick is a mid-level manager in a 08:40 financial service company in new york 08:42 city each day he commutes from Weehawken 08:44 New Jersey is suburb only a stone's 08:46 throw from the Big Apple 08:47 where he lives with his wife Donna sound 08:52 there Donna and his in his teenaged son 08:54 Steven a late baby boomer Rick just 08:57 missed the Vietnam Vietnam air is 08:59 anti-war protests but he's been against 09:02 the war in Iraq from the beginning he 09:03 thinks the Pentagon is out of control 09:05 and considers the military-industrial 09:06 complex engaged to the country 09:09 if you asked them it's a subject in 09:11 which he would race himself as 09:12 knowledgeable he puts effort didn't do 09:14 as educating himself on such matters he 09:16 reads liberal websites subscribe to 09:19 progressive minded magazines and as a 09:21 devote a Jon Stewart's Daily Show yeah 09:24 that's it's typical yeah in fact he has 09:28 no idea just how deep the Pentagon 09:30 rabbit hole goes or how far down it is 09:32 his family already is Rick believes that 09:35 despite its long reach the 09:36 military-industrial complex is a 09:38 discrete entity far removed from the 09:40 array from his everyday life now if this 09:43 were 1961 when the outgoing President D 09:46 Eisner warned the country about the 09:48 unwarranted influence of the 09:49 military-industrial complex and the 09:51 largest arms industry already firmly 09:53 entrenched in the United States Rick it 09:55 might be right after all he doesn't work 09:57 for one of the pentagon corporate 09:59 partners like arms maker Lockheed Martin 10:01 he isn't in the Army Reserve he's never 10:05 attended a performance of the Marine 10:06 Corps band not to mention the Army Navy 10:08 Zaire forest music groups but today's 10:11 geared up high-tech complex is nothing 10:13 like the olive drab outfit of 10:15 Eisenhower's Day reaches deep into 10:17 American lives and American psyche then 10:20 Eisenhower could have ever imagined the 10:22 truth is that every turn in countless 10:24 not so visible ways Rick's life is 10:27 wrapped up with the military so wake up 10:30 with Rick and sample a single autumn 10:31 morning as a zeal as the alarm on his 10:34 Sony department of defense contractor 10:36 clock clock interrupts his final dream 10:38 of the night Donna is already up and 10:40 dressed in the fitness apparel by 10:42 Danskin a pentagon supplier that 10:45 received over seven eight thousand 10:47 dollars in DoD dollars in 2004 and 10:50 another four and fifty six thousand 10:52 dollars in 2005 and Hanes away and Hanes 10:56 her way made by the defense contractor 10:57 and cake seller Sara Lee Corporation 11:00 which took in over sixty eight million 11:02 dollars from the DoD in 2006 11:04 committed to a healthy lifestyle she's 11:06 wearing sneakers from DoD contractor New 11:09 Balance and briskly jogging on a 11:11 treadmill made by DoD contractor true 11:13 Fitness technology Rick drags himself 11:15 into the bathroom fixtures by Pentagon 11:17 contractor Kohler purchased at the 11:19 defense contractor home depot though he 11:21 squeezed though he squeezes the char 11:23 brushes with Crest toothpaste washes his 11:26 face with Noxzema then hopping into the 11:28 shower lathers up with zest and chooses 11:31 Donna's Herbal Essence overhead the 11:33 shoulders what the hell he matters I 11:35 deserve at organic experience the 11:37 manufacturer of each of these products 11:39 Procter & Gamble is among the top 100 11:41 defense contractors and raking a cool 11:44 362 million for and sixty one thousand 11:47 eight hundred eight dollars from the 11:48 Pentagon in 2006 in his go a sorry in 11:53 his in go his DOD supplier of Bausch and 11:55 Lomb contact lenses and down goes an 11:58 tech for his ulcer from DoD contractor 12:00 GlaxoSmithKline heading back to the 12:03 bathroom he finds Donna finished with 12:05 her workout and making it the bed with 12:07 the TV news on and lends her a hand 12:09 their headboard was purchased from 12:11 Thompson ville furniture the mattress 12:13 from Sears pillows were made by Hill o 12:16 Paris 12:17 Sartre Harris pillow supply all Pentagon 12:19 contractors the exchange Grimm they 12:22 exchanged glances as one of their sat on 12:24 their samsung set and their DoD 12:26 contractor the Today Show chronicles the 12:29 latest in the chaos in Iraq thank God we 12:31 never supported that this Warwick says 12:33 thinking of the anti-war rally Donna and 12:36 he attended even pour the invasion was 12:38 launched NBC which produces the The 12:41 Today Show is owned by General Electric 12:43 the 14 largest defense cracked 12:45 contractor United States to the tune of 12:47 2.3 billion from the DoD in 2006 and has 12:50 worked on such weapons as the uh-60 12:52 Black Hawk helicopter and the F fa-18 12:55 Hornet multi mission fighter attack 12:56 aircraft both of use in Iraq so you get 13:01 the gist there right yeah it's clear 13:04 yeah just that pretty much the defense 13:08 spending that stage is so huge and it's 13:11 such a guest in every aspect of American 13:13 life with a research and development 13:16 product development and a lot of these 13:18 consumer items we do use were first of 13:20 course developed for the military and 13:22 they're really we can't get that out of 13:24 our lives because it's so pervasive 13:27 indeed I wanted to back up just one 13:29 second mention that this individual you 13:34 know who is seemingly you know 13:36 being characterized who's someone sort 13:39 of unwittingly participating in the 13:43 military complex that runs the United 13:46 States or at least is being 13:47 characterized as that but he watches 13:51 John Stewart yes and that made me laugh 13:55 because I mean there is a lifetime actor 13:58 if everyone existed he's a classic 14:00 should well be studied you know by the 14:04 citizens because that little piece of 14:07 work he you know he has all these jokes 14:12 and you know very lovable in so many 14:15 ways and then when 9/11 comes along 14:18 suddenly he's not so funny and you know 14:21 he's very much lampooning and ridiculing 14:24 people who are trying to reach the truth 14:25 about that so and then you know you look 14:29 into his background elite Jewish family 14:33 and those brothers like one of the big 14:35 financial players in the United States 14:38 so you know it's just you know it stinks 14:43 and and that that individual that that 14:47 you mentioned you know is being he's not 14:50 only is his soul being sucked out of him 14:53 by all of the the products and the 14:56 financial you know ization of the 14:58 military and into our lives but the 15:02 propaganda is hitting he doesn't even 15:03 know you know that that he is basically 15:05 enslaved by by the system and so all of 15:11 these things that that you mentioned and 15:13 that's I think really yeah that was just 15:16 a great description you know I this this 15:19 is a good book of of what Americans 15:23 don't see of how the the military has 15:26 reached out and is you know controlling 15:29 our lives all the products and that 15:32 individual he doesn't understand that 15:34 that his whole world his wealth his time 15:38 his consciousness it's all actually to 15:40 some extent under controlled by the 15:43 group that controls the military II and 15:46 so you know how to wake the guy up well 15:51 you you know you got to get them off the 15:54 zan tax you know and on to the heroin I 15:57 I don't know what to do with someone 16:00 like that you know this is it's like I 16:02 was thinking about that and and okay so 16:06 you have such an individual he's very 16:07 much the everyman of you know of our 16:10 country but how could someone like that 16:14 ever you know get out of all of the the 16:20 fabric that he lives with him you know 16:22 every product you know the TV shows I 16:27 mean it's just everything has been 16:29 weaponized against him and unless you 16:32 get that spark of you know awareness 16:37 that that this is the case you're just 16:39 gonna stay in that matrix and be 16:41 controlled 16:41 you see he's he's going to end up 16:43 something like they would have a hard 16:45 time not ending up basically as a 16:48 patriot basically as someone who would 16:51 who had come to see America and a 16:53 positive light you know yeah we're we're 16:56 fighting you know in this war but I 16:58 don't think something like that could 17:00 ever rebelle because I think the 17:01 propaganda is just effective enough to 17:04 keep him in a kind of Numb living death 17:07 you know I mean he's like like he's like 17:10 one of these creatures that are captured 17:12 by a spider and then kept alive in the 17:15 web for the babies to eat you know it's 17:19 just it's just a grisly situation just 17:22 to think of it and I I had recently I 17:26 didn't see the movie but I been studying 17:29 it and I intend to but there's a new 17:32 movie out called pitch perfect 3 and I 17:35 mentioned you know that to you before 17:37 the show that yeah ever the article II 17:39 sent you 17:40 yeah that it's um you know it is it's 17:43 portrayed as a musical but in fact there 17:49 is just complete relationship now 17:51 between Hollywood the Pentagon the CIA 17:53 CIA and the NSA and there are documents 17:57 which have been exposed showing that 17:59 this relationship exists and then when 18:02 you see a show like this and this is a 18:04 little different to me and this is 18:06 something I wanted to mention is that it 18:07 seems like they the propaganda is 18:11 getting more blatant I think which is 18:16 interesting you know it's like make is 18:18 this because they're worried about the 18:19 alternative media they this is how 18:21 they're going to respond to it 18:23 but it's also more clear 18:26 in the sense that the DoD the Department 18:30 of Defense is basically given credit as 18:34 like helping produce the movie because 18:36 the the the Army is involved with the 18:41 creation of the film's and what what you 18:44 see then with with pitch perfect 3 is 18:47 something that can be studied as a 18:49 propaganda piece you know you you had 18:53 sent me a video of that contained really 18:58 old footage that that was that was the 19:01 DoD had influence in and they gave video 19:06 of a TV show called Lassie yeah you know 19:10 so they show Lassie and in that in the 19:14 show that is being referenced in the 19:16 film you know lassie rescues this guy 19:21 from a plane that that broke down and 19:23 lassie figures out something is wrong 19:26 with the engine because lassie can hear 19:28 the high-pitched whine that indicates of 19:30 some mechanical defect and and so lastly 19:34 as a hero that was the original script 19:37 but it was shown to the army because 19:40 they wanted the TV showed producer 19:43 wanted some help and like having a you 19:46 know an army Cessna basically used in 19:49 the in the footage and the army said 19:52 well ok we're fine with it except for 19:54 the fact we can't have to change the 19:56 story because we can't have kids 19:58 seeing an army piece of equipment fail 20:02 because even if this is in the 1950s 20:06 even then they were trying to 20:07 indoctrinate children into this idea 20:10 that there was something 20:12 magical and perfect about the military 20:14 and that was very telling you know um 20:17 that that kind of very subtle child 20:20 propaganda was was going on in the 50s 20:23 Nick is that Tibbie they're saluting at 20:25 the end who salutes the colonel 20:26 yeah innocently saluting the colonel 20:29 he's the ones it's gonna be dragooned in 20:32 the fighting in Vietnam in Vietnam a 20:34 decade later that little drug punk is 20:37 gonna be in the Mekong Delta yeah listen 20:45 listen to fortunate son by cccccc our or 20:49 Johnny Hendrix or something you know and 20:53 so this is this is um you know it starts 20:57 with something so innocent but then it 20:59 ends up you know and face down in the 21:01 mud and in the Mekong Delta and so so 21:03 you know needs to be exposed well in 21:06 pitch-perfect they they actually take 21:09 the whole show on to a military base 21:12 which is completely absurd having to do 21:14 with the actual storyline but they they 21:17 move the whole thing into a military 21:18 base and the military base is portrayed 21:21 basically it's a kind of a Disneyland 21:24 it's you know you have handsome sexy 21:29 servicemen you know you've got all kinds 21:33 of this patriotism where people are like 21:36 civilians are coming up thanking the 21:38 soldiers for their service and here who 21:40 is them and protecting us against you 21:42 know the crazed fanatics in the Middle 21:45 East you know a federal almost at our 21:48 shores 21:49 they even through and of course the 21:52 required lesbian character right yeah it 21:57 was now going to enlist you know because 21:59 hey gay people can also be heroes you 22:01 know and so it's it's very blatant 22:04 propaganda mm-hmm 22:07 they they actually in in the article 22:10 that I had read which was written by 22:13 Caitlyn Johnstone and she's in them has 22:17 a blog called medium.com and and she had 22:22 pointed out that the the military 22:26 individuals who had been involved with 22:28 that had had come up with quotes and and 22:32 that you know they're they're basically 22:35 you know and no uncertain terms taking 22:38 credit for creating the story and and so 22:45 you know the the site this one guy 22:49 captain Meredith 22:50 Kirchhoff that the the film humanizes 22:56 the human resources used to power the 22:59 American war machine well I mean we have 23:04 a real problem don't we when the 23:06 characterization that we have of the 23:10 military you know comes from Hollywood 23:13 because Hollywood is basically just 23:16 reflecting the propaganda that the 23:17 military is trying to sell the public 23:22 yeah and you mentioned Hollywood's and 23:25 you know liaison or meeting with with 23:28 the military that goes back to almost 23:30 how its founding with the War Department 23:32 you know with movie wings the silent 23:36 film and held Hells Angels the Howard 23:39 Hughes film 23:42 of course the in the third days 23:43 particularly then we don't run to the 23:44 Second World War you had things like 23:46 sergeant York coming out in 1941 23:50 you know glorifying America's entry into 23:52 World War one and you know this 23:56 denigrating ideas of pacifism of course 23:58 you've Casablanca although it would came 24:01 out in 1942 it had been produced in 41 24:05 and this is of course that shows the you 24:08 know the how impossible it is for any 24:10 good American to be isolationist you 24:12 must be an interventionist I can't 24:13 afford to stay out of that's the idea 24:15 behind Casablanca and these things and 24:17 so and and those who know about the 24:21 Disney Corporation know that the War 24:24 Department which took it over throughout 24:25 the war and then Disney Disney films 24:28 produced a whole bunch of propaganda 24:29 films cartoons they helped you develop 24:31 the maps and we that people saw in the 24:33 newsreels and these things a lot of the 24:37 morale-boosting films they call it 24:40 you could say would be like Donald Duck 24:41 cartoons telling people to pay their 24:43 taxes and put up with the rationing and 24:45 these things they that's of course 24:47 that's for the Treasury Department 24:48 so all these propaganda films and that 24:51 type of partnership never ended the fact 24:55 that after the war it sort of was 24:57 formalized the CIA of course itself had 25:02 connections to filmmaking course the OSS 25:06 itself I think produced a film 25:08 [Music] 25:10 it's called OSS I think I think Tom 25:12 Secord just a Tom Segar it's a some 25:14 great research on this actually out of 25:16 the UK about national security I think 25:18 they have a book on national security 25:19 cinema that details the stuff that 25:23 current gets the collates and organizes 25:25 all the reaches they've done throughout 25:26 the years regarding the military and 25:30 that's social security state and and 25:32 Hollywood but yeah this movie I think 25:35 it's called OSS and it glorified the you 25:40 know the exploits to the OSS during the 25:42 war and the role played and defeating 25:43 the evil Axis powers and I think in in 25:46 one of the films of some sort of 25:47 operation going down and this is I think 25:50 it's supposed you know this is a 25:52 post-war film but it's supposed to be 25:53 taking place and I think it was made 25:55 1945 or 44 baby even during the war it 25:58 was anyway 25:59 the actual term Central Intelligence we 26:01 need a Central Intelligence Agency is 26:03 actually used in the film you know this 26:06 is before 1947 Wow 26:09 so they're promoting that the necessary 26:12 for the military but also for for a 26:14 permanent you know hypocrisy an 26:16 intelligence agency because I think that 26:19 focuses the film which showed just how 26:20 far America was behind its adversaries 26:24 and having you know lawless secretive 26:27 cryptocurrencies they can 26:29 cloak-and-dagger stuff they can go out 26:31 and fight the dirty dirty war is that a 26:33 necessary to guess 26:37 defend and expand democracy defend the 26:40 free world that type of programming yes 26:43 in the films we we know the Central 26:46 Intelligence Agency and lo and behold 26:48 few years later let's have an immediate 26:52 yeah um you know it's funny when done 26:55 the when I was reading like some of the 26:58 the propaganda arcs have had the 27:01 relationship the kind of the broadest 27:04 stroke I saw the one I thought might be 27:05 amusing for the you know listeners to 27:08 cogitate upon is you know Bimbo's 27:12 initiation which was created by max 27:15 Fleischmann and and but it featured 27:18 Mickey Mouse that actually had Walt's 27:20 character so Walt and Fleischmann were 27:23 working together though Fleischman is 27:25 one who's credited with creating and 27:28 producing it but clearly doesn't he was 27:30 involved and since Bibb knows initiation 27:33 is a obvious homage to a freemason you 27:39 know the way that they're able to 27:40 basically control people it's not 27:43 particularly you know symbolic it's just 27:46 what the thing is about it really kind 27:49 of shows and of course Fleischmann and 27:52 Disney Disney were both Masons right so 27:55 they have the secret society background 27:57 and then Walt of course pops up again in 28:01 World War 28:03 just after World War two and the secret 28:05 military base and Laurel candy and I was 28:08 thinking you know that's really 28:09 interesting because see you also have 28:13 you know from there you have David 28:15 Crosby Jim Morrison and and Peter Fonda 28:25 now this is very interesting because so 28:29 you have you know these are all hippies 28:32 and proponents of drug taking I mean 28:35 Easy Rider was just you know an obvious 28:39 propaganda piece to shatter the family 28:43 and it was the other side of the 28:45 jaws of destruction around the 28:47 generation the other being of yet no 28:49 more but did you know that Henry Fonda 28:52 was an intelligence officer during World 28:54 War two and seed so this is very 28:56 interesting because you know Morrison's 28:59 Jim Morrison's father high-ranking 29:02 Admiral the guy who oversaw the cult on 29:05 King false flag Frank Zappa's father 29:08 MKULTRA chemist you know again you know 29:11 high-level military intelligence and 29:14 then David Crosby his dad was OSS and so 29:19 when you look at these arcs right 29:21 between generation and product the 29:25 different kinds of films they make you 29:26 know from Bimbo's initiation to Easy 29:28 Rider you know you can see that that the 29:33 military propaganda is not just the 29:38 glorification of war it's also different 29:42 ways to basically control the population 29:46 to to make them survive so and it's 29:50 unified the the propaganda on one side 29:52 comes at us you know as like except for 29:56 example the counterculture of creation 29:58 but on the other side you get the the 30:03 glorification of the the task of the 30:06 United States and even though these two 30:08 things are often shown as diet a 30:11 dialectic that they're in competition it 30:14 ends up in exactly the same place for 30:16 both groups are you suggesting Jane 30:19 Fonda was not the real deal 30:22 well I'll tell you the first five 30:25 minutes of Barbarella had me convinced 30:30 so I still can't believe that she's an 30:35 agent but but yeah I would think that 30:39 you see you know how it is how I see the 30:43 system Joe chant find it went to Vietnam 30:45 and she see there it is you know and and 30:48 then and her and her brother was you 30:50 know glorifying drug taking and 30:53 and communal living and the shattering 30:55 of family and they're clearly rebelling 30:58 from Henry aren't they you know who is a 31:00 staid individual and there could never 31:04 be some kind of relationship between the 31:05 two camps but yeah I actually think it's 31:09 all just done as you know that's yeah 31:13 Peter and Jane are is different from 31:15 their father as David Crosby was 31:16 different from his father's that 31:17 photograph showed right exactly right 31:19 yeah they're so different it's just 31:21 incredible how different they are and 31:23 yet it all ends up kind of in the same 31:25 place and and so it sort of like Gloria 31:29 Steinem you know as you know this this 31:31 couldn't possibly be something that 31:33 would be in the you know would be 31:36 against the the actual lives of the 31:40 American women right is so earnest 31:43 trying to fight for it 31:44 so the propaganda is pretty complicated 31:47 and and it's hard to see but I would 31:51 just say that you you really have to be 31:55 really skeptical of anyone who has a 31:57 kind of generational relationship and 32:00 either military intelligence around a 32:02 Hollywood because you see I don't I just 32:04 don't think it works and the way people 32:07 are told I mean I don't think you know 32:09 the Beatles and The Rolling Stones are 32:11 you know the result of hard work and 32:14 talent yeah I think that they are active 32:17 mean particularly they are the result of 32:19 a decision being made to take culture to 32:21 take European youth culture into a more 32:25 integrated world and and that's going to 32:28 be part of the whole sex drugs and rock 32:30 and roll separation from ethnic 32:33 communities which were obviously a 32:36 problem for the oligarchs and had to be 32:38 destroyed well the militaries are huge 32:40 part of that just the war itself because 32:42 just the the social engineering aspect 32:44 of mobilization the the draft and 32:46 pulling all the boys from the farm with 32:48 some sending them overseas than the 32:50 Asian Europe and the Pacific 32:52 then bringing them back they're not 32:53 going to go back to the foam how do you 32:54 get the boy back in the farm once you've 32:55 seen gay Paree 32:56 as they said some Waterworld one and so 32:59 just the huge I guess you know this 33:04 the trauma from war and that's the war 33:06 itself but just this the cultural trauma 33:08 there you being pulled away from your 33:09 family for three four or five years 33:11 that's gonna separate you from your 33:13 family that's gonna destroy her ass 33:15 innate you so to speak and you're gonna 33:17 come back and all sudden the you know 33:19 everyone's become more mobilized the 33:20 military itself because well the 33:22 interstate highway system these 33:25 according to the standard narrative was 33:27 was was a result of Eisenhower being 33:32 impressed with the audubon supposedly 33:34 and being designed for military reasons 33:36 although it really never was designed 33:38 for military reasons it was designed to 33:39 disperse the population get him out of 33:42 cities and in the suburbia can just tell 33:44 how their designs are not there to 33:46 accommodate military equipment but there 33:48 was a huge social engineering feat right 33:51 there 33:51 something that's something you know 33:52 America was far different in 1914 it was 33:55 in 1950 and I don't think you can um you 33:58 know it so probably just as profound 33:59 1940 to 1950 as it was between 1960 1970 34:03 and just just as in 1960 1970 there was 34:07 a lot of social engineering in plan and 34:10 planning going on there well same with 34:12 World War two and that was foreseen back 34:15 in the early part of the 20th century 34:17 and you know you get with Norman Dodd 34:19 and his investigation into the 34:21 foundations where that investigator 34:24 Katherine Casey under covered the 34:26 minutes from the Carnegie I think it was 34:28 a Carnegie Foundation but they 34:30 determined that war was the best way to 34:33 fundamentally change collectivise 34:35 society in these things and lo and 34:37 behold I think I was about nineteen ten 34:39 1908 around in the next 30 30 40 years 34:43 you're at war and World War One World 34:46 War two then career the police action 34:49 and Vietnam the undeclared war constant 34:51 war just think about the amount of 34:53 trauma and what it does to the economy 34:54 in the entire state of California pretty 34:58 much what we know modern California was 35:01 built around entertainment in the 35:02 military industrial complex and the two 35:05 played off each other that's right and 35:08 that's one thing I really think that I'm 35:10 glad you're bringing up is that the the 35:14 fact that there is the seeming 35:16 opposition you 35:17 you have Peter Fonda and Henry Fonda you 35:21 have Jim Morrison and Admiral Morrison 35:23 and you have David Crosby and Colonel 35:26 whatever they Floyd Crosby right and you 35:29 go well it's a free country 35:31 look the user rebelling right but 35:35 actually they're just conducting another 35:38 phase of the operation of enslavement 35:40 hmm you see and and so and so that's the 35:44 it's sort of like the problem that 35:46 people have looking at Donald and 35:48 Hillary if they can get you to hate one 35:51 of these two individuals they've won 35:53 because they're they're dramatic 35:56 production has created a sense of 35:59 reality right if you hate either Hillary 36:02 are the Donald you have been brainwashed 36:06 successfully because now in the election 36:10 you will you may not like what goes on 36:14 in the country but by god you know the 36:17 person you hate either won or lost 36:19 and so you mistake that for the idea of 36:22 democracy which is basically the 36:24 illusion of freedom you know when 36:27 shinned last week that the oligarchs 36:30 don't rule in you know in in spite of 36:33 the constitution they rule because of it 36:35 the the there they have control over us 36:38 because they are able to manipulate this 36:40 particular set of laws so easily it's 36:42 designed for them to be able to 36:44 manipulate the the different electoral 36:47 systems inside our country so they can 36:50 just control the political apparatus but 36:53 the public doesn't know they're being 36:56 enslaved because they think that the 36:58 Constitution is there to protect them I 37:00 I just I actually spent when I came back 37:06 to New Zealand I was there 37:09 Los Angeles we couldn't come back home 37:10 and I had nothing to do so all I did was 37:13 play over and over again the preamble to 37:15 our last show where he described the 37:17 American political system I just thought 37:21 that was so brilliant I mean just I mean 37:24 like sometimes I would laugh till tears 37:26 roll down my cheeks and other times I 37:28 fry I mean that that's something 37:30 everyone should understand the sarcasm 37:34 how brilliant that that that the 37:37 particular vignette is if you if you can 37:39 just listen to it to really get a sense 37:41 of how the wolves pulled over the 37:44 people's eyes so what we're talking 37:46 about today the militarism you can't 37:49 talk about any of these things 37:51 militarism the counterculture feminism 37:54 yeah 37:55 you can't talk about of an isolation 37:57 they don't operate an I can die in an 37:59 isolated sense they operate in unity 38:02 it's the overall package it's it's both 38:06 Henry you know with you know crank 38:10 crotchety old American patriot the 38:13 drug-crazed Peter fought down on you 38:16 know listening to like driving his 38:18 motorcycle with the born to be wild 38:20 and God help me it's Jane fund at the 38:23 beginning of Barbarella with a 38:25 closed-off floating in space it's all 38:28 part of the same thing you say and but 38:30 if you if you make the mistake of 38:32 thinking well Peter and Jane have 38:35 rebelled I don't they you say it's a 38:37 free country 38:37 look there's rebellion then you're 38:40 missing the whole way that you're being 38:43 programmed and it's just like with Trump 38:46 and Hillary if you hate one or the other 38:48 you've already basically lost control of 38:51 your mind because they're they're it's 38:54 all fake you're literally mistaken a 38:58 theatrical production as something 39:01 that's real and and you can't you know 39:04 never succeed in this world with that 39:06 with that you know that with that 39:08 blunder you know you just that the world 39:10 is too vicious if there's there's too 39:13 many you know people that are out trying 39:17 to enslave and if you don't think 39:19 clearly you're going to be lost and you 39:22 know and and so that that's why 39:23 militarism is really valuable to 39:25 understand when we see the giant flags 39:28 you know covering the entire stadiums 39:30 now you know in football games what 39:32 happened they're definitely trying to 39:34 you know promote war promote normalize 39:37 that normalize us as the citizens of a 39:40 war 39:40 our state but when when you when you see 39:45 Jon Stewart make jokes you know about 39:49 Donald Trump you're also being exposed 39:54 to the same system propaganda in that 39:57 case it's just trust development so that 39:59 when the you know the key issue comes 40:02 like nine-one-one Stewart can come in 40:04 with his control over your mind and say 40:06 well 9/11 one is it's the people who are 40:08 truthers are crazy right and do it in 40:11 zubur with what they do is I yeah right 40:14 they don't really address it in 40:16 substantive serious debate because they 40:18 then they they could they couldn't 40:21 handle it so they they ridicule and you 40:24 know Tucker Carlson knows like actor and 40:27 you mentioned that um you know he was 40:30 asked about building 7 collapse and and 40:32 he I can't quote him but I I mean that 40:36 just was is that he just said well of 40:38 course these things can happen 40:40 accidentally because it did happen 40:42 yeah right he just you know you'd 40:44 basically vote almost like a an insane 40:46 logical fallacy right the system's but 40:50 but you know his position of authority 40:54 enables him to get away with stuff like 40:56 that like nom Chomsky where it where you 40:58 know he's so lovable and he's got this 41:00 bizarre uncomprehensible kind of series 41:04 of how sentences are structured and 41:06 whatever this is so he's sort of smart 41:08 and he's sweet he's calm and then he 41:11 talks about you know 9/11 and he goes 41:13 well you know these things happen it's 41:15 just that all of these little weird 41:16 details like the building collapsing 41:18 symmetrically a freefall speed you know 41:20 that just happens it just happens to him 41:23 well they gets credibility because he'll 41:25 he'll raise some interesting good points 41:28 about various topics or American 41:31 militarism American Empire and these 41:32 things exactly selectively you say but 41:34 Tucker Carlson hoping on some crazy 41:36 feminist or some social justice warrior 41:39 make a fool out of them and that gets 41:41 everyone going yeah well I can trust 41:43 Tucker 41:43 he's great Tucker you know I can trust 41:45 knows that yeah so it's just like I can 41:48 hate Hillary yeah I can hate the Donald 41:50 so it must be a real election 41:53 okay is this clear I hope everyone you 41:57 know that listened to us cuz it's just a 41:59 it's a pretty simple point and it also 42:01 take a course it distracts from for much 42:04 you know who's really calling the shots 42:05 so what intrigues to really accomplish 42:07 and I think I suggested that maybe 42:09 perhaps another topic might be who they 42:11 is 42:11 yeah because all part of the same thing 42:15 because I ran into that over the weekend 42:17 they were talking about my some 42:20 relatives are talking with obviously but 42:22 who they is and they who's they and I go 42:24 i B'nai B'rith ADL I mean wanna go into 42:30 it George banking families stolen both I 42:33 mean III whenever whenever I get hit 42:36 with that they council how are relations 42:38 I don't let go of it 42:40 I just okay well I'm glad you asked that 42:43 and then I just I give like 50 people 42:45 you know and I go but and by the way 42:48 here's that here's another list you 42:49 don't want stay so so they really is 42:52 like it's sort of like the this idea 42:55 that there can't be a conspiracy that 42:58 uses the government because government 42:59 is too incompetent right yeah I mean 43:02 they go how could the government do that 43:03 I mean they can't even like get the tax 43:05 structure right you know something I 43:07 mean well the tax is the way it is 43:11 because it's supposed to be the public 43:16 without the understanding of the secret 43:18 society without the understanding of 43:20 them brother you just lost you're lost 43:24 in this world you cannot understand it 43:27 it makes no sense you might have I mean 43:29 maybe you can root for the Chicago Cubs 43:31 and and hate Hillary Clinton but that's 43:34 about as far as you can go 43:35 intellectually you can't really 43:37 understand it if you don't have that 43:39 basic structure and militarism is a good 43:42 portal very good point to get in on 43:45 because it when you see it when you see 43:48 it it's so blatant then it's a way for 43:51 people to go you know there has to be 43:54 something more and back but how can how 43:55 can the military which supposably is 43:57 under this Democratic control please 44:02 listen to Tim's preamble to the show 44:04 last week two together 44:06 standing of how the system was supposed 44:07 to operate since the milk area supposed 44:09 been to democratic control how can it do 44:12 things like that to damage the minds of 44:14 the civilians well it can't and and the 44:18 reason the fact that you have things 44:20 like MKULTRA and operation Mockingbird 44:22 and and you know the the participation 44:26 of the US military and all of these just 44:28 blatantly illegal activity is because it 44:31 isn't under the control of democracy at 44:34 all right that means that there is a 44:37 system of control that's invisible 44:40 inside the thing it has to exist it does 44:42 exist we don't understand the real 44:45 connections that the secret society has 44:47 through the generals of Jesus staff I 44:49 mean they're probably family members 44:52 ethnic you know cryptos or whoever are 44:56 people who have taken oaths because you 44:59 know like we were talking about well how 45:01 how war is good just for the kind of 45:04 mental process it breaks people down and 45:07 and that's one of the reasons I'm sure 45:09 that the oligarchs continue the wars as 45:13 they do there's a number of reasons but 45:15 one of them just has to be to to put 45:17 humans in a situation where they have 45:20 agreed to be broken down mentally and 45:22 becoming and become robots yeah well 45:26 more or less kind of like a nationwide 45:28 boot camp it's like exactly you have you 45:31 know you have to follow orders because 45:32 we're all depending on you know of 45:34 instant obedience but you know there's a 45:37 war on a date us quick yeah don't 45:39 question the damn thing just you know 45:41 pull the grenade pin and throw it into 45:42 the families you know so I mean this is 45:45 this is acknowledge because even during 45:46 world war two is acknowledged that 45:48 information was censored as officer war 45:51 information for the purposes of morale 45:53 that all that's what their thing is 45:54 they're not gonna give you all the 45:56 information so you as a citizen when you 45:58 vote write your Congressman or hold your 46:01 public officials accountable or again 46:03 for all the information necessary to 46:04 determine whether or not it's a good 46:05 idea to go to war or to stay at war 46:08 because the people who are conducting 46:09 war will determine that that itself is 46:11 will be bad for morale so when they say 46:14 things like politics ends at the water's 46:16 edge these things well what what now 46:20 that's the whole myth of democratic 46:21 control of these things because the 46:23 public is never given the information it 46:24 needs to uh to if even if I had the 46:28 inclination to think about these things 46:30 in mass to hold the pullet hold the 46:33 their public of their elected officials 46:35 accountable and not to mention the 46:36 military you know because the that's the 46:39 whole myth behind democratic you know as 46:40 if millions millions of Americans who 46:42 are busy working or distracted with 46:44 entertainment or trying to spend time 46:47 scrutinizing public policy following 46:50 news stories looking for any 46:51 consistencies whether not the news 46:52 follow-up at one story out there whether 46:54 or not a news story even makes sense 46:55 it's true or you know once scandals 46:58 reported well is it is that do they 47:00 follow up on the scandal I mean if if 47:04 there were reports of atrocities can it 47:06 ever seized by US troops and it's 47:08 reported one time in the you know 47:10 somewhere is the public inert say hey 47:14 wait a second you you're not talking 47:15 about that today you talked about 47:17 yesterday weren't you talking today 47:18 damson morale the soldiers for god yeah 47:21 you know no one can follow this stuff I 47:24 mean I would just think the other day I 47:25 was just reading about an article that 47:26 Syria about what's going on in there and 47:31 yet Trump announced that he's gonna 47:33 maintain troops in Syria the border 47:37 there and they're gonna support I guess 47:39 Kurdish army I thinking well you support 47:42 the Kurds that the problem of that is 47:44 the curves are trying to break away from 47:45 Turkey and Turkey is a member of NATO 47:47 and that could break NATO up if you do 47:51 this because they don't want Kurdish 47:52 independence so these things at the same 47:53 time you're just stabilizing cereal 47:55 you're hurting turkey which is in one 47:58 reason or there's a NATO member and I'm 48:00 reading through the article different 48:01 insulin thinking okay this is like no 48:03 one when people voted for Trump didn't 48:06 say I'm gonna vote for Trump's he's 48:07 going to foment the civil war in Syria 48:10 to take out the Assad regime but it's 48:11 happening anyway no no you know 48:15 globalism Trump yeah no globalism 48:18 thank you but then and the goes just 48:19 this the amount of detail this article 48:21 you know I forget I mean I followed the 48:24 scenes rather closely but even then I I 48:26 forget the detail of these things and 48:28 after a while it all kind of blends into 48:30 Windows one like gray blob 48:33 information if you don't this thing I'm 48:36 from a public standpoint is the public's 48:38 not gonna hold the people accountable 48:39 because the press which we've talked 48:42 about that we rely on supposedly the 48:45 Fourth Estate to distill this 48:46 information for us an informants it's 48:48 totally controlled by the military and 48:50 in the intelligence agencies because 48:51 those agencies are controlled by the 48:54 financial interests that ruled of roost 48:56 who ultimately controlled by handful 48:58 though oleg ARCIC families and as the 49:00 that's the power structure I mean so 49:02 okay well tell my I have to confess I 49:06 have a little piece of vanity I regard 49:10 myself as sort of an expert in the 49:11 Middle East particularly the Wars hmm I 49:14 spent a lot of time I can't make hide or 49:17 hair out of it yeah if you ask people 49:22 their their organizations that pop up 49:25 Hamas I mean who are they you study them 49:29 what happens 49:30 I mean basically I I kind of think what 49:34 you're seeing there is almost like a 49:36 world war one thing where it's the whole 49:39 purpose of it is just to you know it's 49:41 to basically kill Muslims right and to 49:46 come up with completely cockamamie ideas 49:50 to give to the public as to why this is 49:53 being done I think that there really 49:56 isn't any you know I mean I don't 49:58 believe that things like Isis exists 50:01 without the the authorization and 50:04 funding right of the Oleg arc families 50:07 II so so there is a purpose for them and 50:10 there's a that is you know propaganda 50:12 purpose but definitely you look at sort 50:15 of like the you know different groups 50:17 inside Syria even Assad himself some of 50:20 the behavior that he exhibits man I I 50:23 smell a rat i I think that in in the 50:27 world of militarism you know absolutely 50:31 pseudo a rationale for just genocide are 50:36 easy to slip over the public and I think 50:39 I mean if you know I was making a joke 50:42 about being 50:43 because actually I I don't know I can't 50:46 understand it 50:47 anything that goes on there because I 50:49 don't think there's anything to 50:49 understand I think it goes to understand 50:52 what's going on you have to look far 50:54 deeper into what the oleg arcs intent 50:58 for the region and therefore the way 51:01 that they get to that point every single 51:04 thing every element every you know the 51:08 Yemen situation the Saudi Arabia is now 51:11 you know they're battling here all of 51:13 this is nonsense all of the rationale 51:15 it's all just population reduction over 51:18 a long term you're gonna end up with the 51:20 Muslims being moved out and greater 51:23 Israel you know from the Nile to the 51:26 Euphrates will end beyond that's what 51:29 the phrase actually you know States so 51:31 so that's really what is gonna be the 51:33 end result that's what the old dark Swan 51:35 and everything goes on in between is 51:37 just you know cockamamie tactical 51:41 propaganda maneuvers yeah but Joe it's 51:44 very important that we have hundreds of 51:47 thousands of troops stationed overseas 51:49 because every once in a while they make 51:51 go on a train and stop a terrorist 51:52 attack like in Paris now Clint Eastwood 52:00 I mean it isn't finality the grounds for 52:04 like not having someone be a director of 52:07 a movie I mean I mean did you see him at 52:11 the Academy Awards a couple years ago 52:12 where he was just tottering I mean it 52:15 looked like he was just propped up by 52:17 you know on meds and uh you know in the 52:20 stick I mean he just looked like he was 52:22 absolutely brain dead I thought he I 52:23 didn't think you would make it to the 52:24 after now he sinks in this was kind like 52:27 Colonel Sanders now or something they 52:28 just put him up there I think I'm not 52:31 interested he's alive at this point but 52:35 I mean that the idea of making a movie 52:39 about that you know I mean you know it's 52:42 like really one thing we should do maybe 52:44 is having a a Jim and Joe Academy Awards 52:48 for the best propaganda movies of the 52:51 year and and like in mine I mean 52:54 certainly a few years ago zero door 52:57 thirty would have been I mean that was 52:59 really a you know you have a completely 53:02 fictional account of a fictional account 53:06 and it's cute as reality and I acts I 53:11 swear I actually had an argument or sort 53:14 of but this guy about the nature of the 53:17 bin Laden attack and he was using zero 53:19 dark thirty as as his groundwork for 53:21 this position and it was like at a 53:24 certain point I was going God you know 53:25 this is just an exercise in insanity 53:28 we saw you saw it I'm sorry yes I know 53:32 two eyes he saw it was real it's you 53:34 know so that's the thing is that if you 53:37 don't have that that flame you know that 53:39 spark of skepticism that you know that 53:43 this could be propaganda you are really 53:46 vulnerable you know you're so vulnerable 53:47 and and so you know step out of the 53:51 matrix and into the sunlight and and you 53:55 know it starts with you know when when 53:58 the when the militarism occurs what do 54:01 you think I mean you're sitting there 54:03 you know you're drinking a few beers you 54:06 know it's a propaganda piece a lot of 54:08 the people that listen to us would know 54:10 that you know it's it that they see the 54:12 the giant flag come over and the Jets 54:14 and things and no one says anything what 54:17 should a person in that situation say to 54:19 the the people in the room what would be 54:22 effective you know or is there anything 54:24 you can do wake the hell up 54:28 Marius it's like you know here's this 54:31 movie of 17 and 15 to Paris where the 54:35 title is oh yeah 15 to do the Paris here 54:40 is a dramatization of an event which are 54:45 you sure it happened at all I mean it's 54:50 like I mean it's like this is what 54:52 happens if they make a dramatization of 54:53 event which was probably staged you know 54:56 so now you have a drummer station of a 54:58 staged event and so and so this what 55:02 this does is this the sort of sanctifies 55:05 or confirms in the mind of people's they 55:08 may think themselves well I'm watching 55:10 to move 55:10 which may not be totally because it's 55:12 movie they had to make it interesting 55:13 but that's not a real bet yeah like tora 55:17 tora tora right i mean yeah it means 55:19 that's the thing is that so you know 55:22 movies are very effective in terms of 55:25 mind control yeah you know there's not a 55:28 lot of details known about the studio 55:31 that was set up in Laurel Canyon but 55:33 enough can be inferred you know by the 55:36 people who were in that they were 55:37 studying pornography they were studying 55:40 special effects and then they were 55:43 probably also studying the effects of 55:45 music you know in video seeing how how 55:49 it could be used yeah yeah yeah and then 55:52 and then that's why you know that's why 55:54 the Laurel Canyon musics being you know 55:56 with literally I mean within 100 yards 55:58 of the facility it's it just pops to 56:00 life you know and so so that that would 56:02 would have you know that that would be 56:05 the level of sophistication you're 56:08 dealing with and and now we've got this 56:10 double and tripling you know where they 56:13 you have the fictional event covered by 56:16 the fictional media and then Hollywood 56:19 makes a movie based on a real event and 56:21 so that becomes what history is and 56:23 that's what people know history you know 56:26 they they see them so you know with with 56:29 militarism you have to just bear in mind 56:33 that you you to really you have to 56:36 understand is propaganda but you should 56:38 also look at it as something that's you 56:41 know part of a broader structure and and 56:46 it can't and there can just just because 56:48 something is opposed to militarism like 56:51 Nam Chomsky doesn't mean that that you 56:54 know it's not part of the process of a 56:56 mind control and enslavement yeah it's 56:58 important because the if you read 57:02 christian christopher simpson's book the 57:04 science of coercion and he focuses a lot 57:06 on the development of mass communication 57:10 in the starting in the late 1930s chris 57:13 he focuses on the the radio research 57:16 project at a Princeton had leakin 57:18 travellin and the War of the Worlds 57:21 Halloween Eve 57:22 broadcast October 30 57:24 thirty-eight it's an interesting year 57:26 and timing for that the effects of of a 57:31 fake broadcast not just the effect of 57:34 the Breck is up but also the 57:35 exaggeration the reported exaggeration 57:38 of people's reaction to that was was 57:41 followed by by these you know these 57:43 people spending a lot of time and money 57:45 gauging and charting the public's 57:47 response to these things and the effects 57:48 of mass communication and in that book 57:50 Christopher Simpson says the whole study 57:53 and therefore the development of mass 57:56 communication was all funded by the by 57:59 the War Department the military land 58:00 after the Second World War at the CIA 58:02 for the purposes that mass communication 58:05 was develop the purpose of mass 58:06 manipulation and psychological warfare 58:09 there's also coincides with development 58:12 of the psychological strategy board and 58:14 the CD Jackson and the Eisenhower 58:16 administration and the development of 58:19 certain film and also radio and music 58:22 and I think you've outfits like EMI 58:25 which heard later would produce records 58:26 for the Beatles we're all tied to the 58:28 military in Britain and the same thing 58:31 if you go it with if the Columbia 58:35 Studios these things record company Lisa 58:37 Nestle's all these big corporations all 58:39 tied into the Columbia Broadcasting 58:41 Corporation these things so it's all 58:44 tied into the national security state 58:48 you know OSS guy and and you can just 58:52 see these threads they're not really 58:55 that hard to follow you know I don't 58:58 want him you know that was press admit 59:01 we did it showing it was Presley or 59:02 based on the Miles mathesar Tikal his 59:05 manager Tom Parker you got into the 59:07 country took the name of the soldier to 59:11 let him in illegally right he looks like 59:16 a spook if you just look at his like he 59:17 looks like he's a spook and he's 59:19 managing Elvis Presley right you know 59:21 and so you can see that our culture is 59:24 just the way it works is not as people 59:27 think the basic component they got to 59:30 realize is that the individual is not in 59:32 front of you because 59:33 there was some kind of market that he 59:36 has one in other words Elvis Presley 59:38 wasn't you know good dancer tractive 59:41 looking guy I guess had a pretty good 59:43 thing was that's not why he's up there 59:45 that's why he is the one who the media 59:48 is presenting he is with me he's 59:50 presenting because they are doing 59:52 something to your mind and he is a 59:54 device that they've chosen to use the 59:56 Beatles this wasn't just someone trying 59:59 to sell a bunch of Records this was 60:01 someone trying to wreck a bunch of minds 60:05 right this is this is what this is about 60:07 and so you don't you have to 60:11 automatically when you see celebrity be 60:15 suspicious every time there is a 60:17 celebrity every time you see Jane Fonda 60:20 floating naked in space you know you 60:22 have to go okay she's attractive and you 60:26 know my mind it's hard to focus you know 60:29 when she's on screen like this but you 60:31 know there there is probably a reason 60:34 why she's there there's probably a 60:37 reason that an oligarch has for this 60:40 precise image coming to you Hollywood 60:43 wasn't created you know to to basically 60:48 sell movie tickets you know when Wilbur 60:52 Hayes was going around the country under 60:55 the cover of the production code and 60:58 getting every single small-town to have 61:00 a movie theater in it you know every 61:04 single small town should have resisted 61:06 and burned the thing to the ground yeah 61:08 you know what it's doing what the evil 61:12 was and back of back of this this or 61:14 this entire industry of Hollywood it's 61:17 there to enslave you to your passions 61:19 and apathetic just makes you a slave 61:20 because then again you lose your 61:26 critical faculty or your these things 61:28 and yet you know you if you come and 61:33 slave to your passions and desires you 61:35 become a consumer and yeah and you're in 61:38 a position now to be to be sold 61:40 something and and well basically you're 61:42 on the way the genocide look there are 61:45 two principles 61:46 that you have to operate under 61:48 everything else is and those are 61:51 strength and virtue right that's it 61:54 strength and virtue these are the 61:57 characteristics of you know successful 62:00 humans and if you want to find happy 62:03 well you know find Kim Kardashian maybe 62:07 she'll give you some opiates you know 62:09 yeah and they're there to market goods 62:11 because Kardashian where is a certain 62:13 perfume the market the perfume yeah well 62:15 and also they're there to market a 62:17 certain consciousness yeah the idea that 62:19 you know this giddy kind of you know 62:22 giggling opioid fused you know 62:28 mindlessness is actually something that 62:30 that's valuable you know the happy thing 62:33 is that it's one of the Hollywood things 62:34 that they sell to to keep people 62:36 basically moving forward toward toward 62:38 genocide but it's the exact opposite of 62:43 what the people need to develop which is 62:46 just two things they got to be strong 62:47 and they got to be virtuous and a 62:49 destruction of ethnic consciousness 62:52 because that's one thing the military 62:54 does too because it breaks it down right 62:55 all right yeah get rid of all that yes 62:57 everyone you know we heard stories about 62:58 you know either the platoon of Vietnam 63:01 there's a guy with it with an Italian 63:03 name there's a black guys as a Polish 63:04 name and as an Irish name and this is 63:06 America and we've been sold that this is 63:09 how this is America world erast native 63:11 we have no ethnic consciousness and that 63:14 was a function of the military because 63:16 before that you America was pretty much 63:17 a confederation of different ethnic 63:20 communities particularly in the north 63:21 and this had tremendous political power 63:24 and basically they won't sign on to the 63:28 empire the new you know the American 63:30 Century and he loses the American 63:32 Century because they're different 63:33 interests than they were then the 63:34 eastern seaboard elite that henry luce 63:36 represented and these skull and bones 63:38 and all that stuff but yeah you'll see 63:40 that with it again the thing is they'll 63:42 pathologize ethnic consciousness we need 63:45 good example of ethnic italian ethnicity 63:49 apologized in the role of the mafia 63:51 right sir yeah so that's that's that's 63:54 that's pathologize it's it's abusive 63:56 abusive fathers but 63:58 yeah well that's that's the ultimate 64:01 isn't it sighs in the role of the Nazi 64:04 goose-stepping that's and that's is it 64:06 you know I mean anyone who knows you 64:09 know the the trajectory from you know 64:13 British Zionism through Helena Blavatsky 64:16 and the tool society into the so-called 64:19 Nazi Party with all their cultism that 64:22 this is another did look these are just 64:24 fake structures they're just done to 64:26 make people you know experience the 64:28 genocide is a dialectic rather than you 64:33 know just straight population reduction 64:35 by a group that hates them and and then 64:38 of course the role of celebrities and 64:40 and cults of personality like certain 64:43 political figures and celebrities you 64:44 could kind of they're there that's why 64:47 they were created in the first place and 64:48 they were created that's sort of Edward 64:50 Bernays develop that process of yeah on 64:52 we carry so but the Hollywood itself 64:54 with Rudolph Valentino and these things 64:58 in the creation you know that the 64:59 magazines and that's what the function 65:00 of the theatres with these and then 65:02 these celebrities can then promote 65:05 whether its products or a certain 65:06 cultural agenda obviously I mean 65:11 Hollywood right now I mean Hollywood 65:14 what it's what it's projecting out to 65:16 the to dance states in the entire world 65:18 for that matter it's promoting 65:20 Americanism in these things it's a it 65:23 really it's an instrument for the New 65:24 World Order globalism monoculture and 65:28 just the just the world affected they 65:32 produce or this that the fact that so 65:35 many celebrities just themselves you 65:37 know are being promoted as people to 65:39 emulate or to follow whether it's the 65:41 scandals their opulent lifestyle these 65:43 things you can you know you can what you 65:45 they'll have a whole show about Katy 65:47 Perry's mansion you know as if why we 65:51 care about this or who's divorcing whom 65:54 or who's having an affair with whom or 65:56 who's doing something with what you know 65:59 Harvey Harvey Weinstein these things 66:02 these scandals and everyone's talking 66:04 about the you know the exploits or the 66:08 degenerate lifestyle celebrities as if 66:11 this matters to anybody right it 66:13 basically it's just kind of pornography 66:15 yeah I mean the same way that 66:17 pornography sucks the mind in and you 66:19 know you you then start developing 66:22 appetites for particular looking females 66:25 and particular kinds of sexual acts it's 66:28 always likely to happen in your which 66:32 leads to impotence 66:32 ironically and then you end up with you 66:35 can't even have sex with you know the 66:37 real women in your life which 66:41 incidentally is becoming more and more 66:43 clear you know that that pornography is 66:46 just a way to compartmentalize and look 66:49 look with it I'm a giver 66:50 I mean we're talking about Hollywood 66:52 itself but if they're rolled into the 66:53 military but that's how the military is 66:55 now being used to confuse these roles 66:57 because the first the recruitment of 67:01 women is numb yet another example of 67:04 them brutalizing femininity destroying 67:07 it and sort of create marginalizing 67:11 masculinity these things know making put 67:15 you know create these problems between 67:16 male and female these things that's what 67:18 its function of this sort of me to 67:19 campaign they turn hollow which 67:21 degenerate scandals into an opportunity 67:23 to promote another brand of feminism and 67:25 at the same time they smearing all men 67:28 do these things and they create this 67:30 victim narrative where all these 67:32 starlets that are aligned line up to 67:34 take their clothes off for roles and 67:36 movies then they you know these sex toys 67:38 arts became raging feminists overnight 67:40 as lecturing they don't I'll tell you I 67:44 just wanted to say any parent that has a 67:47 kid that is studying or somehow has 67:49 become enamored of the idea of being an 67:50 actor or an actress get them the hell 67:53 out of acting school yeah it's hard I 67:55 mean that is an absolute food you know 67:59 grindstone to pulverize the soul of 68:02 individual because look there's a way 68:05 they can succeed that that the you know 68:07 the people like Kardashian and and Jane 68:10 Fonda that are the icons that the you 68:13 know the North Star that people want to 68:15 move toward these are Oleg ARCIC 68:17 structures they're not real human beings 68:19 they were chosen 68:21 you know out of you know these these 68:22 secret society needs and your kid isn't 68:27 gonna make it yeah 68:29 and would you want them to emulate the 68:31 life you know anyway but what's gonna 68:33 happen is that after like five years of 68:36 acting classes you'll get you know one 68:39 rule as a topless zombie whose head is 68:43 eaten yeah and that that will be the 68:46 career it's just a complete soul suck so 68:49 you have to get your kid out in the same 68:53 way that people have to turn Hollywood 68:55 off just turn it off 68:58 the only thing you should be listening 69:01 to is our show it's the others but you 69:05 have to go the alternative media 69:06 I didn't mean to speak light of that but 69:09 you've got to go to the alternative 69:11 media find ways to get information 69:13 because mainstream is mainstream pop 69:16 organda militarism is part of it it's 69:19 just you know it shows up as a point in 69:22 the spectrum and people think well that 69:25 means that you know and some like an 69:29 actress that promotes gee BTL culture 69:33 and pacifism shows that we're not you 69:37 know the hollywood has you know there 69:40 there's there's freedom of thought 69:41 because on one hand you've got people 69:44 promoting militarism and the other hand 69:46 you have you know 69:48 gbto and you know in pacifism it's one 69:52 system yeah everything is there just to 69:55 destroy ethnic community and and take 69:59 people into the New World Order where 70:02 they are isolated from their ethnicity 70:04 from their family and from their spouse 70:08 and the children are produced by the 70:10 state so the opposite of that is 70:14 strength and virtue this is what kind of 70:17 what we're up against I was just reading 70:18 an article this is from 2009 The 70:21 Washington Post white house proposes 70:23 cuts in the military recruiting budget 70:25 and citing the Pentagon's recent success 70:28 in meeting its manpower needs the Obama 70:30 administration is proposing to cut the 70:32 defense budget the depart 70:33 the site the Defense Department's budget 70:35 for recruiting by nearly 800 million or 70:38 11% for 2010 the proposed budget reverse 70:42 years of increased spending aimed at 70:43 bolstering military forces strained by 70:46 six years of combat in Iraq in nearly 70:48 eight years in Afghanistan from 2004 to 70:50 2008 annual funding for recruiting and 70:53 retention programs more than doubled 70:54 from 3.4 billion the seven point seven 70:57 billion so they're spending seven point 71:00 seven billion on recruitment and 71:01 retention Amit I mean that's a-- I met a 71:04 deep recession that has made the 71:05 military more appealing option for job 71:10 seekers although I love the doublespeak 71:12 yeah they don't have any money it's more 71:15 appealing right where you're starving 71:18 you know like a piece of Blythe will 71:21 sate infested you know poison is really 71:25 appealing cuz you see this is the thing 71:27 is that people are so beaten down that 71:30 you know by the financial social 71:32 situation that the military is like 71:35 looking like the only option and then 71:37 when they see the militarism and it and 71:39 it works well in terms of propaganda as 71:41 far as tugging getting old patriotism 71:43 going on inside them you know they're 71:46 just gonna make a very bad decision 71:48 basically I am I would say I am the 71:54 poster boy for anti recruit ISM you know 71:59 um I you know there could be a you know 72:02 like you know don't join the army kind 72:05 of posters can can start propping up 72:07 because um you know it's you're just 72:11 gonna get in there they're gonna mess 72:13 with your mind 72:14 you're gonna be told stuff about the the 72:18 rationale for the wars you're gonna be 72:20 given 911 72:22 the Krays terrorists you know concept in 72:25 the Middle East and you're just gonna go 72:27 over there and and kill people and then 72:30 come back and and at some point there's 72:33 gonna be a voice inside of you that's 72:34 gonna say you know I just didn't 72:36 understand it and you're just gonna feel 72:40 lost and and at that point it's you know 72:42 when you when you look at 72:44 the militarism Tim and the propaganda 72:47 and then the statistic of the number of 72:50 veterans who commit suicide right you 72:54 can see that there's there's something 72:56 wrong with the propaganda you know yeah 72:59 something's happening to our troops over 73:01 there 73:01 they're realizing when they come back 73:03 you know I don't know because I haven't 73:06 been there but I I know the statistics 73:08 of suicide are just catastrophic and so 73:12 this is a symptom to me of you know that 73:15 that their humanity can be conditioned 73:18 but they can't extinguish it Jon Stewart 73:21 and Nam Chomsky can make jokes are be 73:24 you know kind of loving an avuncular and 73:27 fool you but at the end of the day your 73:31 basic humanity will pop up to the 73:34 surface and then you're gonna wonder 73:35 what you did you know with your life and 73:38 your actions and and and so rather than 73:43 go in and become a robot how about just 73:46 staying outside the military and working 73:47 on your own strength and virtue well it 73:52 was still in a situation where like 73:56 Bradley Manning when he exposes a crime 73:59 being committed by US soldiers people 74:02 who are hunt upon militarism and folk 74:04 patriotism jingoism nationalism will 74:08 call for his head rather than say well 74:09 he expose wrongdoing right you know 74:12 instead he's put into prison subjected 74:16 to god knows what and then comes out 74:17 this Chelsea Manning running for the 74:21 Senate as it was a woman so then you get 74:25 like John McCain you know asking for his 74:29 head just look in the background of 74:31 McCain's family I mean it's just you 74:34 know it's this Masonic generational 74:37 cesspool I think they've all been 74:40 Admirals a military and because he he is 74:43 the one that that incident on that 74:44 aircraft carry killed a bunch of 74:45 soldiers in thee yes it's it's uh Morden 74:48 that he was goofing off on a plane or 74:49 something and he was he was shuffled off 74:52 but of course his second wife I think 74:55 her father 74:57 was a lieutenant for the Bronfman crime 74:58 family the Canadian the Jewish crime 75:00 family right 75:02 and so he's connected to organized crime 75:04 in these things so yeah I mean and so 75:07 it's just the militarism I think is you 75:12 know is is exposed people can there's 75:16 enough available on the internet for 75:18 someone to do basic work and I'm sure 75:22 realize that even if you're not as 75:26 extreme in your position as you know 75:27 come to the point where you extreme 75:29 position as I am you realize that they 75:31 are systematically using military 75:35 propaganda there in different ways to 75:39 make the people the public less able to 75:42 resist it and and so when you get to 75:46 that point you know you we need to we 75:50 need to organize ourselves in opposition 75:52 to it 75:53 first step is spread the word right you 75:56 need to tell people this is going on and 76:00 that gets back to my the question of the 76:03 the beer drinker you know the he's 76:06 sitting there at the NFL title game 76:11 he's just popped a cylinder and here 76:14 comes the American flag covering the 76:17 football field you know ye do you say 76:20 anything do you say well this is being 76:22 done to mess with our minds you know 76:25 well the pay that's paying the NFL to do 76:27 that yeah this isn't patriotism it's a 76:30 business decision right and people are 76:33 making decisions that will end up with 76:36 you know with death based on you know 76:41 this propaganda so if you don't say 76:43 anything you know if you just go back to 76:46 the Bud Light and pull it down and wait 76:51 for the kickoff is that really strength 76:54 and virtue 76:54 you know I don't think so I don't I 76:56 think that you know years from now you 77:00 wonder you know maybe I should have said 77:01 something you know when when your 77:04 children are dying in some foreign land 77:06 and 77:07 and you know nothing is change in our 77:09 country and we are just completely a 77:11 slave state an overt one you know maybe 77:14 it's time when we have a little bit of 77:15 freedom of free speech to say something 77:17 you know those who are aware that this 77:20 is propaganda say something's because 77:22 there's an ad fred was it the Marines I 77:25 forget with the ad just that consists of 77:27 the service these amphibious vehicles 77:30 rolling up yeah I'm these soldiers 77:32 running out on a beach and already 77:35 thousands yeah and it's like we don't 77:39 they don't retreat they go wandering I 77:41 figure worth a year with the cat tag 77:43 line yes so some people go forward 77:46 sometimes move always they should show 77:50 the trench scene from the slum or 77:51 something and you know that when I it's 77:54 funny I think I'd yeah when I see that 77:56 and you went with them just to flush it 77:58 out you see thousands of American 78:02 servicemen with armed to the teeth II 78:05 planes jets tanks there everyone is 78:07 going forward they're all running in one 78:09 direction I've always thought that the 78:12 camera should turn around and show the 78:14 other side and you'd see like a family 78:16 of you know Muslims like a mother to 78:19 children you know to get an idea of what 78:22 the heroism is really well you know what 78:25 buzz let's do is they give but they put 78:27 bombs and their kids clothes and then 78:28 sudden will go because that's what 78:30 American sniper was about remember how 78:32 yeah sure yeah this is what these people 78:34 do and there's no one even thinks about 78:37 where are they a little geography yeah 78:40 oh oh they're in Iraq oh okay that's 78:43 like seven eight thousand miles or what 78:45 well what's going on there yeah I mean 78:48 why are we you know so so the Middle 78:52 East is a you know it's it's not a 78:55 puzzle it isn't you know it there's 78:58 nothing to solve it's just it's chaos 79:01 and it's deliberate chaos the public is 79:04 are kept deliberately confused instead 79:08 of some kind of clear understanding you 79:10 know the origin of Isis or 79:13 our military policy has brought none of 79:16 this matters it's all terrorism right 79:19 the terrorism is never any context of us 79:21 you remember back when that and the 79:25 prism you know you get you get them oh 79:27 my god they blown up Las Vegas yes and 79:32 and then they uh and then they'll cut to 79:35 you know the American flag being 79:37 unfurled at the football game and 79:39 they'll have like 15 guys who have one 79:42 leg you know limp out onto the field you 79:46 know and give the flag salute the worst 79:47 were self something like young lady they 79:49 were the missing leg you were supposed 79:51 to be you're proud about that yeah 79:53 that's good proud proud of that but you 79:56 remember a while back when that freight 79:58 ship was hijacked by the Somali pirates 80:03 yeah about six seven years ago yeah all 80:06 sudden you know of course the story is 80:08 the I think it was the US Navy takes it 80:12 back eventually the snipers come in and 80:14 they liberate the ship from these 80:16 pirates and that the only context were 80:18 given is the Somali pirates and this 80:20 Freight is freighter and they made a 80:22 movie about it with Tom Hanks lifetime 80:31 out yeah and my word that all that was 80:34 going down I was to think well you know 80:35 really is it the job of the US Navy to 80:38 protect freighters shouldn't freighters 80:42 and their insurance come has come up 80:43 with ideas that you know he's sure the 80:45 the cargo and the crew and then that be 80:48 worked into the price structure and 80:49 these things and that should be the true 80:51 cost of international trade she really 80:53 should be she would be socializing 80:55 security risk of these freighters I mean 80:56 if I go take my if I had a sailing 81:00 vessel I wouldn't get the protection of 81:01 the the Navy these things so you should 81:04 and there's art there at counter 81:05 measures they could have and these 81:07 things and perhaps they and I was just 81:08 you know no wait this is the month 81:10 there's pirates you're evil and this is 81:11 a chance to celebrate our military those 81:13 kind of response I was it was it was 81:15 getting for my siblings it was like this 81:17 isn't the giant it really isn't the job 81:19 of the middle if they're in the area 81:19 they may you know out of you know 81:22 serendipity they may be in a 81:25 in an in an era where they can do 81:26 something and do some good like it's 81:28 like you know relief for a storm or 81:29 something if they're there yeah do it 81:30 but it's in justification for 12 81:32 aircraft carriers because sometime they 81:34 might show up and relieve a country 81:36 that's been hit by a hurricane but um 81:38 but it turns out that if you do a little 81:40 research and Somalia was the geopolitics 81:42 of Somalia was going on there and how 81:44 that country been devastated by the 81:46 anglo-americans IO Empire are the 81:49 corporations that have been the British 81:51 Petroleum's petroleum interests 81:53 destabilizing that country these things 81:56 and apparently that area a lot of the 81:59 corporations been dumping their waste 82:00 there and destroying the rush the 82:02 traditional fishing that's what led to 82:05 the so-called yeah but no one wants to 82:07 hear about that yeah yeah don't know 82:10 what you're making sure this is a 82:11 contest here I mean come on I mean so 82:14 there it is it's militarism most 82:16 terrorism 82:17 so tell I have to tell you something 82:19 mm-hmm two days ago you know I took this 82:23 long plane ride and it is a strange 82:27 thing to come back to the United States 82:30 it is very odd you know you know this 82:35 whole thing at the airport I'm seeing it 82:38 as a replication of the the feudal 82:43 system where they they one of the first 82:47 things they did when they set it up was 82:49 reduce or may almost make impossible 82:50 travel e-everyone had to stay put 82:54 everyone had to stay in place that was 82:56 and so that was that was my sense of it 82:59 is that when you come back to United 83:02 States it's like welcome to the feudal 83:04 system and then of course you know 83:08 militarism was was promoted tremendously 83:10 by Rome was one of the first propaganda 83:12 campaigns with all of the fancy 83:14 standards and and divine you know 83:17 aspects of the military although a 83:19 tribute to parade right so it's a you 83:23 know this long-standing technique to get 83:27 the you know hoi polloi to give up their 83:31 blood let's stop this it's just 83:32 ridiculous you know it just it 83:35 we need to spread the information - yeah 83:39 and so reminds me of that scene they 83:42 closes seen the movie Patton which is 83:44 supposedly the anti-war movie ended up 83:46 being very popular at the time it's a 83:48 great movie summit summit Agra it's a 83:50 great movie and it turns out Patton 83:52 might have been assassinated anyway 83:54 because he was opposing the post-war 83:56 agenda but that scene you where he goes 83:59 for for hundreds of years in Rome 84:02 victorious generals would be brought 84:04 back to Rome and given the tribute to 84:06 parade from all around the Empire slaves 84:09 would be brought in animals from the 84:12 empire and these things and to thousands 84:17 of cheering and behind them 84:19 it is chariot riding with the general 84:23 would be a slave whispering into his 84:25 ears glory is fleeting 84:30 you know the secret society you know 84:33 they kick the slave out of the chariot 84:35 yeah you know they want a permanent 84:38 place so and also bet they were for 84:41 years Roman you couldn't bring a you 84:43 couldn't bring the army across the 84:45 Rubicon and so that was the US military 84:53 you know it's just becoming part of the 84:54 police department you know okay so it's 84:57 um you know what goes yes no that you 85:00 look at the police look at that all that 85:01 is the large function of that is just 85:04 because all the hardware that the 85:06 military district how much produces they 85:08 got a self to somebody they then they 85:10 create markets for it and of course that 85:12 one market is the increasingly 85:14 militarized a police force every town 85:17 has a Bearcat a tank in these things so 85:19 you know god you're you've just set my 85:23 brain I think and I can't handle it 85:26 because I'm too jet-lagged 85:28 all right brother listen Creek talk 85:31 thank you so much next week it's going 85:35 to be fantastic folks so be sure to tune 85:38 in okay great yeah we'll get together 85:40 you get there the next week and of 85:43 course Joe have a nice weekend and get 85:45 your life 85:47 I'm gonna try to get used to the US 85:50 slowly here it's not easy to do 85:54 [Laughter] 85:56 have you been debrief no any when I came 86:02 in oh man all right Tim okay take it 86:05 easy 86:08 [Music] 86:44 the 86:47 [Music] 86:55 [Music] 87:04 [Applause] 87:06 [Music] 87:25 [Music] 87:48 [Music] 87:55 [Music]

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